Muslim And Educated Christian Debate The Divinity Of Jesus Christ! Muhammed Ali

Are you fine? Are you religious yourself? You are a Christian. Okay. Born again. Okay. So, you practice Christianity properly? I try to. I'm not sure. Nobody's perfect. So, yeah. Uh, so how do you see Jesus? You know the difference between Islam and Christianity? See Jesus was God? Did Jesus himself tell you that he was God? He said, "I am God." Yes. Where did he say I am God? Revelations. Jesus says, "I am God." Where? I've read Revelation. says, "I am the alpha and the omega of the beginning and the end." Sure. That's God's name. Do you know where that is in Revelation? I can find it. Okay. So, it's in Revelation chapter 22. Do you know that that's not Jesus speaking? That is a vision of John and the chapter starts by the vision, the dream of John where John sees something. I don't need to trust what John sees when Jesus was walking on earth. Also, you told me also you told me I I'll finish I'll finish with this. Also, you told me he says I am God and then you brought me a verse that says alpha and omega. That's not the same thing. I asked you where does he say I am God. Omega means you are God. That's God's name. Can I tell you why now? If I say I'm Jehovah, who am I saying I am? That's different. I'm saying I'm God. That's different. How is that different? Because Jesus didn't say as John said he had a vision. Is that the difference with Is that what you're going to say? I'll tell you. No, I've already made that point that you don't have an argument because Jesus didn't say that. Someone saw a vision. You could see a vision. I could see a vision. It's not proof of anything. Now Jesus never said himself I'm the alpha and omega. But I'm saying even if he did it's not that like this like saying I am God. God you use the name of God. But I'll just finish the argument right and I'll deal with that as well. I'll deal with any verse that you bring. Now first why am I saying that's not an evidence for God? Because uh in the Bible someone called Melkisedc. Do you know who Mkazedc is? I've heard of him. I have met him. Sure. So Mel Melkisedc is mentioned in Hebrews 7:es 1 2 and 3. And it talks about him having no beginning and end. Same thing alpha and omega. No beginning and end. No mother, no father, no genealogy. And he remains an eternal priest. You would tell me is not god. He's a human being contemporary of Abraham. Being eternal or alpha and omega doesn't make you god according to the Bible because Jesus is not the only eternal person. If you say that he said I'm the alpha and he he didn't even say that. Then you brought another verse. You said I my father one. Do you know where this verse says? I said John. I know where in John John 10 something. Exactly. Perfect. So John 10:30 specifically. Do you know the context? He's saying well he doesn't actually mean I and God are at one. He means that I and God is in agreement. That's what that mean. Perfect. So we are in Yes. Because he's talking about plucking the believers the sheep out of his hand. No one can pluck them out of my hand. No one can plug them in. My father's hand I want to understand that Jesus is God. But can I tell you something interesting? Cuz the Bible says here in the beginning was the word. No, that's what the Bible says. It's the beginning of John. That's what the That is in the Bible. Yes. Yes. I thought you in the Bible. Sure. But we were talking about Jesus. Hold on. Let me finish off. You told me Jesus is God. Oh, go ahead. Sorry. In the beginning was the word and the word became flesh and dwelt among us. The word was with God. The word was God and the word became flesh. Sure. So you are so you've read that verse. I've read the Bible. So if you understand the trinity, the father, the son, and the holy spirit. There's three that make up one. So three parts that makes up one. Now both decided to come down in the flesh in the form of Jesus Christ. Okay. So the problem, Richard, is right now you're telling me your belief. You're not proving your belief from the scriptures. The difference between me and you right now is I've given you verses. I've responded to you with verses from the book itself. I didn't need to go anywhere far, right? You knew yourself. I asked you, did Jesus say, "I am God?" You were very confident. You said yes. He said, "I am God." I said, "Okay, where did I told you I read the Bible? Where did he say that?" I know for a fact he never said that. He never professed it was a it was a vision. No, no, I'm not saying it was a vision. The Bible says it was a vision. You go, "Yeah." Okay. So, that's the truth, right? So, if it was a vision, Jesus himself can. Sure. Do you believe God can speak to me? Of course. The same way apparently God spoke to your prophet. The same way God can speak to his followers. No, there's a difference. Say a difference between God hypothetically Muhammad even though I don't believe. But let's say God did speak to Muhammad. What's the difference between God speaking to Muhammad and God speaking to the people that are in the Bible? Sure. That we believe God revealed to Jesus. God spoke to Moses. God spoke to Prophet. Do you believe that? We don't have an issue cuz these were prophets. The difference is that this is a category of people called prophets of God. And what makes them prophets is that they receive direct revelation from God. Now we don't say any normal to they can carry in Islam. Whoever he is, however, how great he is in Islam. We don't say that they communicate with God directly because that is what prophets do. But isn't isn't Jesus perfect in the Quran, right? The Quran doesn't use the word perfect for Jesus. But Jesus is one of the greatest prophets. Of course, just as Prophet Muhammad, just as Moses, just as Abraham, just as Noah, these are five main prophets we have in Islam. We we rever them, we respect them, but we still say honest. The Bible does say that Jesus is a prophet. Of course, it does. Yes. I appreciate your honesty there because Jesus said in the Bible, I'm a prophet. Yes, he did. He says, "I am a prophet and I am greater than a prophet." Okay, that's what Jesus said. No problem. That's why I said he is one of the five main prophets. We don't say he's just a normal prophet. So even that verse we don't have an issue with. But I asked you did he say he was God? So look you were very nicely here proved what I what I wanted to prove from the beginning. The words of Jesus do not show that he's God. The clear words show that he's a prophet of God. You said it clearly. So you're saying the revelation of him becoming God came afterwards and he didn't outrightly say therefore there's not enough evidence of God. No. Is that what you're trying to say? No. I'm saying something similar to that but not the case. I'm I'm saying there's no revelation that came after us. saying people pretended attributed things to Jesus that he didn't say. That's not revelation. It's just claims about Jesus that he himself never claimed. So it's not revelation because it's not true. He wasn't God. Now when you look at Jesus, he's what he taught people what he told them. When you say you believe in God, does God know everything? Yes. All the time. Yes. Okay. Can God ever forget something or not know something or or does God know everything all the time? You're going to bring it back to Jesus and say Jesus doesn't know everything at the time. I don't need to. You've done it for me. But that's my point is if if you're God and you know everything all the time. But what you have to remember is Jesus was fully God and fully human. Okay. And there was certain limitations on him because he was human. Now do you see the problem? There's two problems with that. So you're saying there should be no limitations. No, I'm saying there's two problems there. The first problem is actually there's three problems there, right? But the first problem, first problem is that we've not established that Jesus claims to be God. So you can tell me he's 100% 100%. We've no proof for that. That's the first thing. The second be a Christian if I didn't respond. No problem. I'm still giving you more respons. Unless I didn't understand the Bible. No issues. I'm still in the process of responding. The second problem with with what you mentioned is if he was 100% God, 100% means that you have all the attitude of God. Even if you're 100% man in the same time that that is doesn't matter because you're 100% God. It means you know everything all the time. If you don't know something then you're not 100% God because the 100% God knows everything. Now then you said the last problem you see there is limitations. God by definition does not have any limitations on his on his attributes. You see God has limitations and attributes. That's not God. That's what me and you. That's what humans are. So here this is what I say is proof that Jesus isn't isn't God. That he was limited in his attributes. He didn't know but he said the father knows. By the way, he he didn't even say the Holy Spirit knows because he said no one knows and he excluded the angels. He excluded himself. He excluded everyone time or the hour. Exactly. So he's essentially saying the only God out there, the true God that knows everything is the father. Now Jesus also fell on his face and prayed. Now he didn't need to pray if he was God. He wouldn't pray. Someone might say he was teaching the disciples. Some Christians tell me that. That's the problem. I don't I don't believe he was teaching. Exactly. Cuz he left. I believe he prayed because Jesus was cut short and short sent her to die. Okay. That's that's God was sent to die. Yes. By who? By himself. You see the problem with that is if Jesus did not want to die. But hold on, let me finish. Sure. Jesus didn't want to die. He said if it's possible, let this cup pass. But because it's the world that we live in, because we all sin and make mistakes, Jesus had to go to the cross to pay the ultimate price. If not, yeah, we would in the Old Testament and we would have to sacrifice. We also not as a blood sacrifice. That's not true. Back in Moses's time, they used to sacrifice. Can I tell you why that's not true? Okay, so few things. uh when we look at Jesus we cannot say Jesus was God and then he he was sent by himself and then he was bringing himself to save himself from the crucifixion that makes zero sense to any rational human being right that's the first thing the second thing is if you go to the old testament look at leviticus for example where it talks about sacrifice talks about different things you can offer flour you can do many it doesn't have to be blood so whoever told you salvation is only in blood which is Paul was lying because when you look at the salvation in the oldest you don't need in fact not only that in Ezekiel and other places in the Bible it mentions only repentance is enough for someone to be forgiven. If you go to Ezekiel chapter 18, the whole chapter actually talks about that. If you go to the verses 20, Ezekiel, Ezekiel, Ezekiel, yes, Ezekiel, Ezekiel chapter 18. So the whole chapter is talking about that. You go to verse 20, it talks about uh that the one who sin shall die. The person who sent is the one who spiritual death basically, right? But then it says if he comes back and repents and leaves all his his evil ways, he surely shall live. Yeah. Because the man God is forgiven. The Bible says here says two things. It says, "If your heart condemns you, you are disgraceful and knows all things." Okay. And then it also says, "If we confess our sins," oh, I'm saying the same scripture. I can't remember whether I'm saying the beginning or the end. It says, "If we confess our sins, God is faithful and just to cleanse us from all our righteousness." I agree. So, God doesn't need blood. God is not bloodthirsty. And God doesn't most certainly God would not kill an innocent person so he can save you and meow if I did because that's injust if you didn't do it. If I go right now and like murder all the people here walking in this place here and they take you the innocent person do anything wrong. That is the definition of injustice. You're only held accountable for your actions. Remember I quoted you the verse the one who sin remember well because Jesus died that doesn't mean we're not responsible for our actions I'm a Christian I can sin not just on it says in the Bible um every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess and we all have to give our account of our life to God you kind of did so so whether Jesus I'm not going to say whether he died or not cuz I believe he did okay but the fact of the matter is Jesus died so that we could have communion, fellowship with the father. Now to answer you, what you did there is you flipped it upside down. You said, yeah, I'll tell you. You said just because Jesus died, it doesn't mean we were not responsible for our sins or something like that. My argument was not that if whether we responsible for our sins or not. My argument was that Jesus was not responsible for your sins. No. So, so, so, so, so if he was not responsible for your sin and the Bible says the one that sin shall die, you cannot punish Jesus for your sin because he's not the one who sin and that is the definition of injustice. And I give you an example. If I do wrong, he he paid the price. No, no, but okay. Do you agree? Regardless of the fact, okay, sure. I'm saying it is wrong. Okay. I'm saying that it is wrong and I'm saying that God is just, but God can do anything. No, God does not do injustice. God does not die. God does not cease to exist. When you when you when you realize God does not lie when you realize there's things that God doesn't do. But when you realize that Jesus says what you understand again you've not provided any evidence to that effect from the words of Jesus. Also I say to you this idea has been fed to you by the church by the Bible that it's been changed by the way. It's not the same. To be honest with you every church lies. I agree. Every church lies. They do. There's no church. Yeah. I've been a Christian since the age of 15 and I left Christianity for a short while when I was 22 and I came back to Christianity and I've been studying and I've never found a church that 100% sticks to the Bible. That's the honest truth. You want to know the Bible to yourself. Exactly. That's why in my discussion with you, what what did I do? I went back to the Bible. I went back to the scripture. I went back to the verses. I saw Jesus. No. Look. Does God have a God? No. Does Jesus have a God? No. But Jesus said he has a God. You know where? In John chapter 20 verse 17. He speaked to Manny Magdalene and he said, "Do not teach me for I have not yet ascended. For I go back to my father, your father, my God, and your God." And he made a distinction between father and God. So it's not just that he has a father, he has a god. And he says that he has a god. Now you can never be god if you have a god. You can never fall on yourself in your face and pray all night if you if you are God. You can never not know something if you are God. You can never say the father is greater than I because you're the greatest. If you are God, you can never say someone gives me authority because God has the authority over everything. So every verse you read in the Bible and you look at his description of what Jesus said, there's no doubt that Jesus is in God and is someone sent by God. He said it to you himself. said you in John 17:3 the only true God so they may know you referring to the father the only true God and Jesus whom you have sent so Jesus is a messenger sent by the only true God you know what that is this is what the Muslim belief what Jesus says what he look I don't need to go to ambiguous verses I am the father all of these verses that are not clear that has a different meaning I don't need to do that because when I look at the words of Jesus it's clear that what he says is what we believe as Muslims so what this is what I call you to worship on God alone. But Jesus told you to worship the creator alone, not to associate partners with him, not to worship him with God, not to worship another person with God. Worship the creator alone. Creator is just one. He's always been one. What about um where Jesus says, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. Nobody can get to the father." No problem. No problem. John 14:6. There's no issues with that verse. We say if you are the way to someone or something, you're not that thing. If I think this way to get to the casino, the way is not the casino, is it? The way is to the place to the So that's proof that the Bible also goes on to say, if you don't believe in me, you don't believe in he who sent me. I agree. I believe. Do you know I do you know what? Let me shake your hand. But then again, Muslims. Exactly. If I don't believe in Jesus, I'm not a Muslim. If I don't believe in Moses, I'm not a Muslim. If I don't believe because the messengers are representatives of God. You're just delivering a message. If you reject them, you reject God. It's it's clear. Allah in the Quran and this is a very common theme Allah says a group of people have a nation they disbelieve in all the messengers but they didn't have all the messengers but Allah is saying disbelieving in one messenger he's disbelieving in all messengers because they all had the same message they all came and said there's only one creator only one god worship him obey be good to your your parents be good to your neighbor give charity fast all of these things all the messengers of God came with prophet Muhammad came with the same message so my question to to you is Right? Because you see the teachings of Islam are in line with what I'm telling you from the Bible. My question to you is what reason have you looked at Prophet Muhammad the way you looked at the Bible and because I can tell you you looked at your scripture. I speak to Christians every day. You don't read. You don't open their books. They say they're from Christian. You've read you investigated your research. Have you done the same with Prophet Muhammad? Have you looked at what he taught? Have you read the the Quran? Why would you I know a bit about Sure. So why would you exclude Prophet Muhammad from being a messenger sent by God just like Jesus was like Abraham was when he told you that you cannot be a Muslim without believing in Jesus. You cannot be a Muslim without believing in Moses. You have to worship God alone. He didn't say worship me. He didn't say do anything to me. He said be good to your neighbor. He said pray give charity. Number what do I know about the um I don't know why I don't. It's a good question. So I invite you to accept prophet Muhammad as you do except with all the prophets of God. Prophet Muhammad came with the same message. You know he came his people they were idol worshippers. He worshiped rocks and stones and idols. Yeah. And he came nobody who isn't a prophet of God will do what he did. He came to them. He said leave these rocks. These are not gods. These are idols created. Anyone can make them with their with their own hand. Right. And then they persecuted him for 13 years. Some of his companions died. He spent all of his life preaching or telling people to worship God alone. Yeah. He had the money before. He had the money because he was married to Khadijah. He was rich and he was he was from a royal. Everybody always talks about but they forget about his first that made him so rich. Yes. And she was the one that told him to trust that it was the she reassured him basically. He was like I'm not sure. And she reassured him. Yes. Yes. So she was a great woman. Absolutely. And and also he was from a royal lineage. So he didn't need status. People already respected him. Call him the trustworthy, the honest. When he had this view, you go to him because he was from Christ royal, the most royal lineage at that time. So he didn't need anything. But then he lost everything. So he can call people to worshiping God alone. He lost everything for that reason, right? So if he wasn't a messenger of God, why would he live that life? Why would he do any of that? Why would he call people to worship God alone? Why would he say believe in Jesus and Moses what he was saying? But he also did miracles. people saw him making back just like they saw Jesus. But for me, it's like and you cannot say he believed it because well it's like if I've got the Bible, why am I going to believe in something that came? Because you believe in the New Testament. Yeah. Yeah. And it came after the Old Testament and the Old Testament came after Noah Noah's scripture. Fair enough. God sends God sends prophets one after the other. So that's not an argument. is based on the timeline. There's not meant to be any other prophets after Jesus. I disagree until until like let me tell you when this meant to be true basically it's either the tribulation or God's wroth that God said he will send 12 of his prophets and they'll preach for a certain amount of days then they will die and then the whole world will see it so but if Muhammad was there he wasn't meant to be there anyway I'll disagree I'll tell you why can I tell you why I disagree that's I'm not correct. The Bible actually disagrees with that. And I'll give you so many reasons for that. First reason is I'll tell you that Jesus said to the his followers, test the prophets. Test the prophets to see who the good fruits and bad and who is from God et 16. So the term true and false prophet is used and the holy spirit is already there. I cast out demons with the with the holy spirit with the spirit of god. the disciples were the holy spirit was already there adove hing and and the you know and the baptism of Jesus was already there so I'm saying there's here's something the old truth that is not yet revealed is the point I'm making regardless of whom you want to say the spirit was there was all truth that is not yet revealed is waiting to be revealed there was a true prophets to be tested also John mentions he came to Jesus came to John the Baptist he asked him are you Elijah he was Elijah asked him are you Elijah are you the messiah referring to Jesus are you that prophet referring to Deuteromy 18 1818 which is there will be a prophet like Moses which is not Jesus Jesus is not like Moses first he's God which is not like Moses he didn't fight battles like he didn't lead the armies he didn't the one who did everything like Moses do you know who was prophet Muhammad migrated like like Moses lived his life like Moses fought wars like Moses spoke to God like Moses the one who did what Moses did was prophet Muhammad also do you know the most important thing is what the Bible prophesizes a prophet in Isaiah that is going to come to the Arabs. He's going to bring a new law, new Tawra, he's going to be to everyone, the Gentiles, not the Jews, that he's going to go to Saudi Arabia, specifically mountain, which is Arabia, is going to fight the worst and defeat them. And he's a messenger of God. The Bible is saying that in Isaiah 42, the whole chapter. Isaiah 42. The whole chapter. Okay, I'll read it when I get home. Yeah. So, this is my uh kind of final advice. I say to you unless you have any questions for me is to accept all the messengers of God. Yes. You might not know the answer to this, but I want to know. True. Cuz I'm a Christian. True. And I love Christians. True. Why is it that in other countries like Sharia countries, Muslim countries, they're killing Christians if we all worship the same God? That makes no sense. True. If your God is my God, what gives you the right to kill me? Sure. Would a God be away from you? Perfect question. My answer is is that this is propaganda that you see that is not true. I'll tell you why. I've been for other reasons why they're killing them. No, no, no. I'm saying it's not true that they're killing them as you think they are. And I'll tell you why. Now, you've not I'm assuming you've not been to these Muslim countries, right? No, no. I've just Okay. That's that's why I'm telling you. You hear about things propaganda is made against Muslims. I've lived and been in so many of these Muslim countries. I'll give you an example. To a Muslim country and I was a Christian, they wouldn't do anything. They will welcome you. action, you will get I guarantee you will get the best treatment that you've seen in any nation. By the way, in Egypt, I'll give you an example. In Egypt, you don't need to trust me, you need to try. In Egypt, for example, do you know how many Christians are in Egypt? No. 50 million Coptic Christians. Wow. Do you know in 2019 the the Egyptian president built him the biggest cathedral in the Middle East? He built it for them. And and he didn't build a mosque, but he built him the biggest cathedral in the Middle East. In in Syria, there's there there's Christians. In Palestine, there's Christians. You know who's killing them? The Zionists are killing the the Christians. Now, yes. So, if you look at who's the Christians are been an essential part of the Muslim community all over the world in Islamic Empire, they were a part of of of the Muslim community. They were not killed. Nothing was done to them. They were protected. In fact, many times, you know, even the Jewish people when they were running away from the crusades, they came to Muslims to rescue them in Morocco. That's why there's Jews in Morocco today. In Yemen, that's why there's Jews in in Yemen today. We don't kill people just because they are from a different religion. We Allah tells us in the Quran it is and I'm telling you when you go and you try when you go and you try and see these nations with your own eyes, you will see the complete difference of what these people are telling you. Whoever is telling you that Christians are dealt bad. This is complete nonsense. I told you I've been there with my own eyes. I've seen it with my own eyes. Christians, you have Jews, you have atheists living in Muslim countries, living the best life, being treated just like as everyone else. So, so you're saying if I went to Saudi Arabia, I would be fine. Do you know Saudi Arabia now is open Medina? Do you know Medina right now? Uh I heard that it's changing. No, no, no. It's it's changing that it's open more becoming more of a tourist attraction. Exactly. So, so they have a new plan now for more tourists, but now to I have been if you go today to Medina, you'll find all all like white people walking around this. That's all you see. But go anywhere. Look, you you can go to Emirates, you can go to Dubai, you can go to Qatar, you can go to Kuwait, you can go to Dubai is all do you know Dubai is 90% foreigners. Oh wow. 90% so like we're talking about Muslim country and this it's run by the there's calls of prayer everything is there is Islamic so this ideas that people are just telling you that Muslims are trying to do something nonsense. Allah in the Quran tells us Allah does not forbid you from those who do not fight you because of religion. Do not kick you out from your heart from being good and righteous towards you. Allah loves those who are just and then Allah says Allah only forbids you from those who fight you. Right. So those who fight you, you have to defend yourself. Yeah. Absolutely. So this is the religion of Islam and that's why I'm calling you to worship on God alone. the God of Jesus, the God of Moses, the God of Abraham, the God of prophet Muhammad and all of the prophets peace be upon him upon them and to accept the message that came to you cuz you've not investigated. happen to say it say I die as a Christian will I go to hell according to to his own if you die rejecting one of the messengers of God you don't go to paradise but after hearing the message so you hear the message you investigate you'll see that the truth you see the evidences and then you'll die rejecting it then any messenger you reject any of the messengers prophet Muhammad Jesus Noah anyone go to hell cuz you're rejecting gods as I said to you remember I told you about the previous nations if you reject one messenger the same god damn makes no sense it is the same god what the god of Abraham is the god of prophet Muhammad. Well then on hand the Bible should be sufficient. No no no but the Bible then the Bible should be sufficient. No it's the same one. It's not because the Bible it's not the same. No no it's not sufficient. Why is it not sufficient? That was Muhammad. No not just that. I'll tell you why not. If you give me a chance you give me a chance I'll tell you. It is not sufficient for two reasons. First it was it's been changed by people. Different Bibles different versions which are not all the same. Number two is God has intended it to the children of Israel, the new and old testament. Jesus says, "I've not been sent to except to the lordship of the house of Israel." In Matthew 15:24, when he's talking about to the Canonite woman, he didn't want to hear her. He said, "I'm only sent to the lordship of the of the house of Israel." Also in Matthew 10:5, he says to his disciples that do not go do not go to the Gentiles. Go to the lost sheep, the house of the lost sheep, the house of the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Isn't it? So when you when I say it's not sufficient is because times change the commands of God is gradual. When Jesus rose from the dead even though you not believe that he died but according to the Bible when he rose from the dead he said go and peace all nations. You're talking about the great commission. Yeah. Yeah. And this this verse a lot of the um Christian scholars say it's interpolation. It's a corruption. I'll tell you why. Cuz he tell he he says to them baptize in the name of the father, son, and the holy spirit. But the problem is none of the disciples ever baptized in the name of the father son. We have the acts of the apostles after Jesus. How did they baptize? In the name of Jesus only. So Peter thing isn't it? No because if he commanded them baptizing in the name of the father, son and the holy spirit that we will find at least one disciple doing that. That's why you have a lot of scholars saying that this verse is an interpretation is a change is an addition as many other verses in the bible. But just like you didn't say the Old Testament was sufficient because it's the same God and you follow the New Testament, you should follow the last testament and also say that you follow the God's progressive revelation. If he wants to send another prophet, he does cuz times change and people's needs change and people's commands change. God had many restrictions for the children of Israel because they were disobedient. You don't have the same restrictions because you're not from the same children of Israel. And Allah mentions that in the Quran, right? So different prophets bring different revelation depending on the time, depending on locality, etc. Prophet Muhammad brought a universal message as the last messenger that no one else is going to come after him. Okay, Richard? Sure. Make sense? You have the Quran with you? No, no, no. I'll give you a copy to my gift to you. I'll put it in my pocket. Sure. You made a convincing argument. Uh-huh. But what I will say is um for me I believed in the Bible my whole life. Sure. I'm not telling you to not believe in Jesus. Yeah. I'm not Yeah. Obviously you're not saying you're not. Yeah. But for me, it's like I I feel like like well like if I'm wrong, I'll apologize to God in judgment. But that doesn't work. And if that's too late, that's unfortunate. No, I'll ask you to do something better. Can you do something better for me? For me, it's like For me, it's like, how do I put this? I'll be honest here. When I was 22, you know, I said I left Christianity and converted. I actually converted to Islam. Okay. And I left it not because I didn't believe in it. It's because I didn't understand it. Sure. And for me, it's like I would rather die saying it might have been wrong, but at least I understood what what I was meant to believe in as a Christian. Okay. Then change my religion to something that I know nothing about. Sure. So I I'll barely understand in hopes of going to heaven. True. I feel like a stranger. True. I feel like when I read the Quran, I feel lost. Okay. I feel like a foreigner. When I read the Bible, I feel like I'm at home. Sure. Believe it or not, yeah. None of my family believe in the Bible. Remember, I'm annoyed with them cuz they raised me on that. They believe in God now, but they don't believe in the Bible. They're not Muslims. They just believe in God. Yes. I get And that pains me so much. You know that you amaze me on this only to turn the back on. How dare you? But something very important which is this. You say something which is subjective. This idea of uh this idea of saying that you believe you feel a way when you read the scripture and you feel a different way when you read the scripture. That's a very subjective thing. Right? So I can say I'll bring you 100 million people that will tell you I feel like this is God's speech when I read the Quran. But when I read the Bible I get completely lost. It's just talking to me about nations traveling from one place to another. You know what I'm saying? Overwhelming majority of people Yeah. The overwhelming majority born into it. It's very difficult I get born into Islam. I get it. Was born into Islam. I get No, I don't believe you're born. Sure. We believe everyone is born upon the right. Fair enough. Fair enough. Were your parents Muslim? Yes. Okay. Imagine somebody told you he and go to another religion. I will say give me the evidence. If you provide me uh evidences that there is another prophet that is sent by God, let's do it. I'll accept it today. Do you know why? That's why I'm saying like what your family did is not something that you should be upset about or resentful for because they've realized it's not true. If this is not true, it's been changed. It's corrupted. Then what the rational choice is not to say I lived all my life upon falsehood. I'm going to remain upon falsehood. is to say if there is some problems here and the truth is someone else is to adopt it and follow it. Now we say you don't follow Islam. Maybe you're in the wrong place. You can go to the right people who can simplify ideas, give you the answers, explain things to you or the right community. Yeah, I believe I believe in God. I believe based on what the Bible says, but I believe in God. And when I die, if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. But I can't. As much as I admire Islam, sometimes I wish I was born a Muslim. Sometimes there's certain parts of Islam that I envy. And even myself, I get myself wishing that I was a Muslim. Okay. But my understanding of the Bible, I have to die as a Christian. Yeah, I have to. And if I'm wrong, then I'll apologize to God. And if that's what could wrap well, you should have me into a trap of that. That was his truth. The only thing I can say to you is this. Allah has given us the guidance. He's given us the truth. But I cannot but I cannot but I cannot guide. Allah is the one who can guide. And what I'll ask you rather than doing what you say is to put your head on on the floor and to ask God to guide you to the truth before your death because after your death it's too late. Allah says in the Qurans those disbelievers they will wish you on the day of judgment if they were believers. You're saying right now today in your life you wish that it will be the same problem in your afterlife when you're dead. So I'm asking you to ask God because God is the one who guides. Right now I provided you the message. You said you make convincing arguments. You responded to my questions. That's all I can do. Right? I cannot put faith in your heart. This is going to sound bad. Sure. I see Jesus. Many Christians send me that. You know what I find? How do you know it was Jesus? You know why I find it magic? True. Cuz I wouldn't expect Jesus to appear to somebody who doesn't believe in somebody who believes in God. Then again, when I saw Jesus, he didn't say he was God. He didn't say he wasn't God. Okay. I just saw a vision of Sure. Sure. And it scared me. At the same time, I had to close my eyes cuz he was so bright that he was shining as bright as the sun. Sure. I was going to call blind if I didn't close my eyes and then he vanish. How do you know that was Jesus? The the Bible tells you that you going or Paul specifically you're going to see Satan as the angel of light come to you in visions and all of that, right? Can never guarantee that this was Jesus. Fair enough. It might have been Satan, you know, but why would Satan try and increase my faith in Jesus? Satan will want you to stay upon a religion in which you think Jesus is God and not and not God is God himself. to you worship other than God. So he sufficient he's made his goal. If Satan can get anyone to worship anyone other than God and convince them that he isn't God, he's one. So that's what he's trying to do with you and with anyone else. So that like I said Rachel, I really I ask Allah to guide you and me. But I said I can only answer the questions, give you responses to the things you make, but I cannot put faith in your heart. It's only Allah is the one who guide. Allah told the prophet himself, you do not guide the one who you loves. Allah guides whom he loves. So I'll ask Allah to guide you and I'll give you that copy that I gave you already as a gift. Let you read it and maybe if you have questions in the future, maybe something will change. Maybe you'll pray like I told you. You pray to God alone, not to Jesus, not to Prophet Muhammad, not to any human being. You pray to God alone and then Allah will guide you. Creator will guide you to the truth. Thanks. It's a pleasure talking to you. I enjoy talking to you. Thank you. You gave a very convincing argument. I appreciate it. Thank you very much. Thank you for talking to me. Likewise as well. I really I really mean I also appreciated the talk. Bless you. Thank you. Thank you very much.