'You are DONE!' Keir Starmer set to RESIGN after Local Elections CHAOS | Daily Expresso

K star is completely cooked. Let me be clear. These are really tough results. >> Well, Kier, let me be clear. You are done. Well, he's just woken up to a a nightmare this morning and it's a nightmare that keeps going throughout the day. Nigel Farage has just come in and planted a massive flag in Labour heartlands. I mean, it's absolutely apocalyptic for Labour. It I don't think it could have been any worse. Martin, you're in Parliament. What are Labour MPs secretly plotting behind the scenes? Well, >> the local election results are in and K star is completely cooked. Here's the latest results at the time of recording. Listen to this. Reform have got more than 600 extra council seats. The LEDs an extra 31. The Conservatives are down 264 and Labor, now listen to this. Labour are down over 400 seats. And we've barely got through about a quarter of the tally so far. Absolutely nuts. Terms of councils, Labour have lost 11 councils, the Loms have gained two, Conservatives have lost two, and reform have gained three councils. A load of those have gone into like no overall control. So, no one controls them anymore. It's so bad for Labor. This Welsh Labor minister is already coming out. Barely a vote has been counted. He's already come out and said, "We're not going to form the next government." They've given up. They've thrown the towel in before anything's even begun. a former Gordon Brown adviser, member of Scottish Labor is saying, Scottish Labor has been pumped, you know, and Starmmer has said, you know, Star himself is saying, "Let me be clear. These are really tough results. I'm not going to sugarcoat it." Well, K, let me be clear. You are done. Martin Starmmer saying he's taking full responsibility for these results. What looks to be one of the Labour's worst ever election results. Surely he's going to resign now. Well, he's just woken up to a a nightmare this morning and it's a nightmare that keeps going throughout the day. >> Yeah. >> And it's I mean, it's absolutely apocalyptic for Labor. It I don't think it could have been any worse. Uh they're losing, as you say, all over the country, Wales, Scotland, and the reason for that is voters are just fed up with with Star. They turned their nose up at him. and Nigel Farage has just come in and planted a massive flag in Labour Heartlands um in the north, Tory Heartlands in the south and is just a turquoise wave across the country now. >> I mean, there's a really surprising one. We'll come to it a bit more later, but reform one Wakefield. Apparently, it's been Labor since the 1970s. That sort of speaks really, doesn't it, to just how bad this is for Labor. Um you've mentioned he's got a big reset speech on Monday. Is he not planning to resign? He's planning to cling on. Tell tell us about that. What's this all about? >> Well, he seems desperate to stay in power and uh yeah, he's preempted the um the blood bath from today by uh announcing that he's going to be doing a speech on on Monday. We're not quite sure what it's going to be. It's another reset for him. >> We're thinking it could be some stuff on on um child poverty, all the usual kind of soft left Labor stuff, and maybe also some um a possible reset on the EU. Is he going to tear up his red lines on the single market and the customs union which uh will provoke an almighty >> ferrari among Brexiteers and and the right? >> I mean it seems a weird strategy to sort of go we've lost a ton of seats to reform so what we should do is just go back into the EU. >> Well that's for you, isn't it? You know he's he's going to lurch to the left and uh he's he's just going to try and do it open old wounds on on the EU. He's con he's been unpicking unpicking Brexit for the last two years. >> Uh I don't think he's got much longer to to survive really. >> How many resets are we on now, Martin? You work in parliament. I don't. You've probably been counting. What we on now? >> I mean could be anywhere between three and 10. I mean I mean this is probably the official third one. I remember being there for one of them um uh Pinewood Studios actually and that that one didn't go too well. It's hard to see how like reforms to child welfare, you know, the EU is going to save this man. Um, do you reckon he could go after pensions as well? Perhaps sort of state pension, triple lock. >> There's been chatter of that. He's he's kind of said in the past that he would keep the triple lock, but that that possibly be one of the things he could go for. Uh, some people argue that it's expensive and he Labor have allowed the welfare bill to balloon. Um, I think a lot of our readers and viewers would would think he should cut welfare bill rather than the triple log. >> Yeah, I mean I can imagine, yeah, a lot of our viewers will be agreeing with that. Tell us what you think in the comments. So, back to Starmer, he said he had no plans to resign. Woof. Uh, Milliban's already out for him. There was a report in the Times yesterday, wasn't there, that Milliban's basically told him in private, "Look, look, mate, just step aside. Don't let this become a big civil war. Just move on. You're cooked." Uh Burnham too, it seemed was out for him. He had a speech ready this morning, right, Martin? Andy Bernham was readying a speech and then he cancelled it at the last minute. >> Yeah, he was supposed to be doing a speech at the Festival of Youth up in Manchester. Um I'm not quite sure what that is, but uh anyway, he he c last night about 10:00 it was announced that he was um not going to not going to attend this festival and not going to do the speech. >> Um think of that what you may. Um maybe he he was under pressure not to appear. Maybe he thought the results today were going to be so bad that he'd just get questioned about it all the time. But it's uh yeah, it's a little bit fishy. Um and as you say about um Miband, he supposedly had this private chat with Star um setting out a timetable for um his departure. >> Yeah. Now he's got a union backer, the TSSA. Uh they're like a transport union, right? Um TSSA, they're saying they want him gone. They're not going to support Star anymore. John Trickett, a veteran Labour MP, is saying it's curtains for Star. But it's not all bad news. Listen to this. Dian Albert says Karma should stay. Martin, has he been saved by Dian Abbert? >> The irony of it. I mean, can you believe it? Yeah, I was I was gobsmacked to hear that, but um she says it's not the right time to be uh to be getting rid of a leader, prime minister, but um she's not been his biggest fan in the past. Um, she went for him actually in the comments last week over Peter Manderson. Her her speech um really kind of hush in hush tones in in in the Commons really set the tone on that. But uh yeah, when Dian Abbott's your savior, you know you're in real trouble. >> Yes, he is in deep deep trouble. There are also rumors going around in the papers this morning that there are many MPs moving to push Dharma out. They're going to request a timetable for his exit. Basically, that's the plan next week. The thinking is they'll come back from the weekend and go, "Right, Starmer, we want a timetable off you. When are you going to go and how?" Um, this is the way this is what the p this is what the bookies think. Uh, the the next Labour leader will be. Andy Bern is the favorite. Angela Raina is second. We're streeting third and Ed Milliband fourth. Martin, you're in Parliament. What are a Labour MP secretly plotting behind the scenes? Well, I think as you said, they're going to wait for this speech on Monday that the dust let the dust settle from the um the election battering over the weekend. There's still a few more results to come over on Saturday and then um see what he offers up in this speech. But that could be the moment when they think if they're not if they're not happy with it, if they're not pleased with what he has to say, that could be the moment when one of those four sticks their head up above the parapit and um kind of makes a push for for the top job. >> Yeah. But they're not they're, you know, all of them have got problems. Andy Burnham, he's had a he's had two goes before. You know, I've interviewed him way back 15 years ago when he went first time in 2010, >> 2014, and he failed to beat Ed Milliband and Jeremy Corbyn on those occasions. So, if he can't beat those two, then he doesn't stand much chance this time around. He's not even an MP at the moment either. So, he's got those hoops to jump through. >> Huge hurdles, like you say. Yeah. >> But he is popular. >> He is. He seems to have got a bit of a personality all of a sudden. >> I I remember the Andy Burn of 2014 going up against Corby and he seemed like a bit of a just a husk, bit of a vessel. Do you think he's Do you think have you seen a change in him? >> He's got this kind of you know Andy Manchester vibe going on now, but it's one thing being a you know a big fish in a a smallish pond, but when once you get down to Westminster it's it's a you know it's a >> a tough old place, >> you know. It's a it's a big old you know. >> Yeah. Yeah. It's a rough place. Um Raina her chances look to be slightly damaged. Her constituency Ashen underlime reform now control the council or they're well up there at any rate. Um what does that mean for Raina? Is are her chance of taking over from Stara just long and gone? They dead. >> Yeah, but I think she was under, you know, under pressure anyway because of this um this whole tax situation that she's uh been embroiled in which got her the sack last year by Star. still not cleared up. Reformer moving in now. Tame side. Uh they've won um overnight and uh yeah, she's not she's not sure of winning the next general election if she stays in that seat. So um there was that whole suggestion that she was going to do what you call a chicken run down to the South Coast and that's where the the House um problems arose. >> Uh so she's she's not a shoe in um and she's not popular with the public. >> No, but she's very popular the party, right? >> Yeah. She could win. She's popular with MPs. She's popular with the party. So, she could get through that. But would why would you elect someone as leader who is not popular with the general public and might not win you a general election? >> Speaking of which, Ed Milliband last of the four in the bookies estimations. What do you think of his chances? >> Uh, net zero. Very good. Very good. Right. On that note, if you're enjoying this episode so far, don't forget to hit the like button, hit subscribe. We really need it, you know. Just get us up there to nearly half a million now. And don't forget to smash the hype button. He helps us get up the feed. Helps us break through the rest of the mainstream media. Right, Martin, we go on to reform. Nigel Farage said today was a big big day and a truly historic shift in British politics. Reform's taking seats from both Labour and the Tories, right and left. Sky are now predicting, scones are predicting that reform will get roughly 31% of the vote share, which puts them roughly right around about sort of general election majority territory. They've won Wakefield which is like we said earlier Labour since the 70s. They won Essex the biggest county in England. Havering in London, Suffukk and Newcastle under lime. Are reform unstoppable now. Have they won the next general election? >> They're not there yet, but they are in a very very strong position now. I mean these results are massive for reform. I've been out campaigning with Nigel Farage um a few times uh over over the last few months really and I've interviewed him a couple of times and they've thrown their kitchen sink at this. This is a big staging post for them and I think they're going to get pretty close to what they they wanted. 31% as you say is a a a big figure for them. They're well clear of the the pack and um they've taken they've seized two uh Labour Heartlands Red Wall seats in Hartley and the like which didn't even turn um blue in the Boris 2919 election. Um so to to achieve that is quite something. It's staggering results overnight. And as you say in in Essex which is kind of ground zero for the Tories, the Kem Badok seat is in Essex. a lot of her shadow cabinet, James Cleverly, Pretty Patel, >> uh they're all Essics MPs and Reform have just kind of had a wipe out there and um moved in. >> I mean, Nigel Farage was gloating actually just just now. He said Kem would lose her own seat if a general election were held today to reform. She's canceled out any possibility of a deal between those two, right? She's not Why is that? Well, she I mean she doesn't want to be seen to be saying that she she'd do a deal because she wants >> those kind of wavering right-wing voters to go to her, not to to reform. But uh uh she's always going to say that until until you know the push comes to real shove closer to the election time. And then I mean there's no love lost between those two chem and Nigel Farage. So whether they'll ever come to some kind of agreement, I don't know. So, moving on to the Tories. Keox says this is the beginning, not the end for the Conservatives, and they're making a comeback, but they've lost how many seats? They've lost over 200 seats at and that's at the time of recording. So, lost over 200 seats, and she's claiming this is a comeback. Is Kemmy out of her mind? >> No, because she's she's improved her own popularity massively in the last 12 months. Um, particularly in the last six months. Uh she gave this amazing speech at Tory party conference, some real eye-catching policies. She's doing really well in PMQs. Um and she's forced the government into to lots of U-turns. She's led the charge on the Mandlesson scandal. She's they've had they had some wins in in London, some key key wins in London, Westminster and Wsworth, Harlow as well in Essex. So, there's a few kind of glimmers of hope there, but um yeah, I think that the it's going to be a tough tough job to claw this one back now despite your own popularity. Still a drag. The party's still a drag on her. >> What exactly about the party is a drag on her? Do you think just the legacy or the people around her? Cuz no offense some of the tries around her, but >> not the sort of best talent in the world, are they? >> It's is the legacy. It's the legacy of 14 years. she's tried to turn that round. She tried to, you know, apologize in the first year and uh of her leadership. >> Um there's some suggestion that, you know, it takes a couple of years at least for for the public to forgive and forget. But again, we come back to Nigel Farage in history, he's never been there. There's never been another party. So, uh another party like that, she's got that to contend with. And um I just wonder whether um you know that she's never going to out reform reform. Um whether they maybe tack towards the middle ground a bit more center center uh right um the Labour are going to go to the left and there's there's a huge area there um which the Lib Dems seem to be benefiting from. I know we said we weren't going to mention them but um >> yeah we we don't talk about Lib Dems on this podcast. There's uh sorry there's certain lines. >> Sorry, James. I'm I'm new. I'm new on the podcast. There's red lines. I've got my red lines. You know, I won't go that way and I won't go to the No, >> that could be that could be a way back for them. Um whether she's going to do that, she's she's um quite stridident on on her on her views. So, she she might not do that, but >> she doesn't seem like the sort of uh wet liberal Tory type. >> No, no, no, no. You know, there's a way of doing it. >> Yeah. Interesting. A bit of an aside on the Tories. Zia Ysef, Reform UK's sort of where what is he now? They have to keep changing their role so much. >> Home affairs spokesman. >> Home affairs spokesperson. There we are. He says no more conservative defectors will be welcomed into reform. Do you think these results have played into that somewhat? Do you think they've just gone, you know what, everyone hates Tories. These guys are a busted flush. We can't be seen with them anymore. >> Yeah, a lot of that. Um although I think if a bigname Tory did try to defect, uh they would welcome them. >> You got any scoops, Martin? You sound like you know something there. >> Well, there's still a few names that have been knocking around. I'm not saying they're big names, but you know, big big names. I think you gener um they're the two biggest. You're not going to get much bigger than that, but >> um you know, if there was certain figures perhaps a Jacob Reese Morgan, I know he's ruled it out. Uh if he were to to go, then um they would welcome them. So, if I would say to you, >> Mel Stride, >> I don't know. I can't imagine Mel Stride going. >> Okay, lastly, we'll move on to this is sort of the elephant in the room, the one we're all actually worried about, the Green Party and the sort of Gaza/Muslimsu independence. Um, the Greens have had a okay show. I mean, we were sort of hearing before the election results, you know, oh, the Greens is all about the Greens. They're going to smash Labor. They're going to take over the whole of London. I mean, they've got the hacky marity, but so far seems okay, right? It doesn't seem like they've done they've not swept the board. They've not had the huge wins. They've not taken over cities, thank God. Um, they've just taken over Hackne, and you know, Hackne is a bit of a god-forsaken place. Anyway, how have the Greens done, Martin? Is it as good as it seems or >> not quite as good as it seems? Because I think the whole anti-semitism row over the last few weeks um and Palansky's remarks over the Golders Green attacks and the police uh I think has has tarnished him somewhat and um I don't think they're quite going to do it as well. I mean, let's not forget they they were nothing not that long ago and they've had this massive rise fueled by Palansky being, you know, quite a character, some weird policies. Um, and the whole thing about, you know, the hypnotizing women and breasts and things like that. He's got the name Walter Titty, if I can, uh, >> if I can say that. Um, and that kind of played well for him, but I think the anti-semitism stuff has really tipped it over the edge, and the public hate that. They don't like that rightly so and it's it's diminishing diminishing their result and you can see that they'll still still do well but maybe not quite as well as they thought and >> no I mean like an extra 61 seats doesn't sound like a great a great victory I mean the Lib Dems are sort of in roughly the same territory yet all we heard about before the elections was how how well the Greens are supposed to were supposedly going to do Birmingham has we haven't had any results from Birmingham yet at the time of recording can you see the Greens doing well there seems to be those kind of metrop metropolitan areas where there's a large amount of diversity and also you know a large amount like particularly Muslim areas where they're particularly concerned about Gaza the Greens seem to have the most support at least on the street you know sort of what you can see in people's windows out and about yeah and you're right at the time of recording I think a lot of the the stronger green areas like the metropolitan centers um haven't haven't declared their results yet and >> yeah there's been a lot of that um that type of voting going on there. We saw it in the Gorton and Denton bi-election which saw Hannah Spencer elected. Um and it's no doubt it's going to be going on in Birmingham as well. >> Yeah. Lastly on the Greens, they're eyeing big scalps apparently in Scotland. This is what's going around all the newsrooms at the minute. Um what's going on there? I mean, I don't know. I mean, I'm not sort of super off with some politics stuff. Um why are the Greens doing well in Scotland? I thought that's kind of SMP territory. What's going on there? >> I mean, Scotland's in flux at the moment. Um it was S SNP, then it's Labor, now it's veering back to S SNP. Um I think I think the core issue coming through here is actually environmental factors. Um core green factors on, you know, kind of green energy and things like that, which is why they're doing doing well in certain areas up there. Um but again, that's it's just going to be a a massive horror show for for Labor and the S&P look like they're coming back. 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