Confident Christian Attempts To Convert Muslim Then Instantly Regrets It! Muhammed Ali

I'm chilling, man, I've recently became a Christian OK, alright It's actually thanks to.. My condolences, my condolences Damn! OK – But it's thanks to a Muslim

– I'm just joking with you.. that I actually became more of a Christian. I started really locking in with it more God bless his soul, and God bless your soul, too I guess I just want to ask you two things first, If you knew Christianity was the Truth, would you convert? hypothetically Yes, if Christianity was the Truth, I'd be Christian today – OK, beautiful

– 100% I mean, in reality, Christianity is way easier than Islam when it comes to practicality Or, let's say the Christianity of today -not following Christ- But the Christianity of today is way much easier So, why would I not take that deal? If it's the Truth, I'll. OK, let's do it Is Christianity not following Christ? I thought that's what Christianity was That's what it should be. But most Christians, what they follow today, is not Jesus They follow the Roman Empire, the Councils that were conducted, and Paul Specifically, that's what they're following today. So, they're not following Jesus – Why do you think that?

– No, it's not that I think that, It is the fact Because when you look at the teachings of Jesus you do not find the beliefs that Christians hold today You find only councils that conduct these beliefs and bring them But when you look at the Bible itself, you don't find it But before, I'll get into Christianity– I love getting into Christianity, I don't have any issues, I just have one question on something you said You said that Islam led you to Christianity or something similar to that, or pushed you towards Christianity or whatever My roommate's Muslim. He's a really good Muslim And he was questioning about it because we had a couple of conversations and he brought me closer because I had to question what I believe, and it actually brought me closer to Christ OK, I got it. So, you mean brought you closer from that sense, that you had to question and research and then understand. OK, perfect, no problem Alright, so let's see how far your research went First thing I want to ask you.. – No, I'll comment on..

– OK, you go, you go.. No no, I just wanted to continue from where we were about Jesus and what he taught and the claim that I was making So, for instance, I want to know first what kind of Christian you are? Do you believe in the Trinity? You don't believe in the Trinity? What kind of Christian are you? I believe in the Trinity You're a Trinity believer, right? Catholic, Protestant, Orthodox? Give me one second, I'm so sorry, I'm getting a phone call [Phone talk] – Sorry, dude I'm so sorry

– No no, It's alright Are you Orthodox, Catholic, Protestant, what kind of Christian? Look, I'm Orthodox. I grew up Orthodox, but I don't really believe in church tradition I believe in Jesus Christ, and I believe we should just go off the Bible I don't mind traditions and stuff like that Sure sure, so that is the position of Protestants, by the way Sola Scriptura – Scripture Only.. OK, so let's see now how true that statement you just made is Now, I told you that Christians of today are not following Jesus I asked you if you believed in the Trinity – You told me you believe in the Trinity

– Yeah, yeah Which, therefore, also means that you believe Jesus is divine and God – Of course! Yeah! Of course!

– Sure, so let's see how true what you believe is When you call yourself a Christian, How is that coming from Jesus when you look at the teachings of Jesus? Let's start with.. We have two questions, the usual questions: The first question is, where is the Trinity in the Bible that you believe in? By the way, let me tell you what the Trinity is, before you tell me where it is because I say that to people, and then they go somewhere where it's not the Trinity So, I say what the Trinity is, you tell me if you agree, and then we can see if it's in the Bible or not The Trinity is that there are: God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit The Father is not the Son. The Son is not the Holy Spirit – There are three persons in one being

– Yeah – Is that correct?

– Yeah, that's what I know And they're co-equal, co-eternal. That's what you believe? – Yeah, yeah

– Perfect So, I am here, you see, very clearly representing your belief Now please, find me, in the Bible, where does it say that there are 3 persons in one being: God? and that they're co-equal and co-eternal. Please. Because you said your belief comes from Jesus, where does Jesus say that? "I and the Father are one". That's what Jesus says (John10:30) – Do you know where that is?

– Where is it? – Which part in the Bible?

– That just came to my head – "I and the Father are one"

– Sure – I don't have to pull it up

– No, I know where it is I'll tell you where it is, I'll tell you the verse, the context don't worry, I'm here with you, I'm here to help you But first, let's agree that what you provided is not the Trinity Because I started by defining the Trinity, and the Trinity is Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit being one And it says that there are 3 persons in 1 being so there's a difference between the person and the being Let's agree first, the verse you provided does not show the Trinity, because it just says the Father "I and the Father are one" which can be understood in many different ways – OK, I agree with you..

– Let's agree on that Then let me explain your verse, no problem That's why I said to you, I'll give you a definition of the Trinity first, because I know you're going to give me something which is not the Trinity, – Right?

– OK, OK So going into: "I and the Father are one", this is in John, specifically Chapter:10, Verse:30 Do you know the context? – No, I got my Bible though, should I get it?

– You're welcome to, but I'll tell you the context You don't need the Bible, I'll tell you. There's a Bible in the memory So the context is that you have Jesus walking, you have the Pharisees coming around Jesus And then they ask him, they tell him: are you the Messiah? Tell us plainly (John10:22-30) – Yeah

– Tell us clearly if you're the Messiah – He tells them: I told you but you don't believe, right?

– Yeah And then he talks about his followers. He describes his followers as sheep, "And they can hear my voice. No one can plug them out of my hand" "No one can pluck them out of my Father's hand" – I and the Father are one

– Yeah So when he says "I and the Father are one" that is a specific context, and that context is about plucking the believers out of Jesus' hand It's not about "I and the Father are the same God", "I and the Father are divine.." No! But do you know what's very interesting? Is that the Pharisees and the Jews misunderstand what he said and they think he's claimed to be God which is what Christians today understand So you see, it's funny that the Pharisees and Christians of today understand the same thing, and Jesus always told them: You vipers, you snakes (Mat23:1-39) You don't understand what I'm saying (Mat13:13-15) But the Christians of today come to the same conclusion as the Pharisees The Pharisees pick up stones to stone Jesus after he says "I and the Father are one" Because they think, like you said, they think it's a claim of divinity So do you know what's funny? What does Jesus say to them? Do you know what Jesus says to them? – What did he say?

– He says to them, I'm God, how are you stoning me? – I don't know

– No, he doesn't say that Yeah, it's a hypothetical answer I'm telling you, he doesn't say that, because he isn't God If he was God, he'd say: oh, I'm God, don't try to stone me He says to them "from which of the good works that I've done, are you stoning me?" (joh10:32) So the miracles that I've done from my Father, for which of these miracles are you stoning me? So then they tell him, we do not stone you for the good works We stone you because you are claiming to be God OK.. So Jesus says to them, doesn't it say in your book "YOU are gods"? He quotes Psalms, specifically, Chapter:82, Verse:6 where God refers to the judges of the Jews as gods The biblical God calls the judges of the Jews, he says to them you are gods and the sons of The Most High So Jesus says, you are called gods in your book This is just biblical language And then he says, you want to stone me because I said "I'm the Son of god"? So he is refuting the claim that they are saying he's claiming to be God by telling them, – I only said I'm the Son of god

– No way.. – I did not say I was God

– No! No way! I don't agree with you at all No no, you don't agree with the Bible – It's not that you don't agree with me

– No no, I don't agree with you I feel like you're taking a little bit out of context, because you got to understand, the Trinity it's not said "Trinity" in the Bible. The Trinity is how we read the Bible and to make sense of God in the Bible, you have to come up with the Trinity that's the way to explain the concept of God My friend, you just said your opinion You brought the verse, I told you the context, which you were not aware of – Let's be fair

– Yeah, yeah I told you the context, I told you the verses that Jesus was quoting And then I give you just what the scripture says Then you say to me that I'm misrepresenting the scripture and you bring nothing You just say the Trinity comes from the Bible Hold on, hold on.. Let me get my Bible because I have highlights.. Get your Bible, get all the Bibles you want, I don't mind, go get the Bibles you want This isn't my point, though The point I'm trying to make to you is– I have a Quran too, because I'm seeking the Truth – I'm seeking the Truth, so I have a Quran here

– OK, No problem You're coming to the Truth, my friend Just go into this exercise we're having right now, and you'll end up realising that Christianity could not have been the Truth, which is why I gave you condolences, by the way It was a joke, but it's kind of true at the same time No, no, this is what I'm saying to you I found the Truth though, because Jesus is the way, the Truth and the life (Jo14:6) OK, first let's agree that I've refuted the verse that you brought forward, which is John10:30 Ok, I'll give it to you, because I'm not locked in on my Bible Wait, not only that, I'm still refuting it I'll even refute it even further now, by telling you that in the Bible, in John, Chapter:17, Verse:21 Jesus says the same way he's one with the Father He says: Just as I am one with you -referring to the Father- ALL of them will be one -He's talking about the disciples- (Jo17:21-22) All of them would be one with us, all of them would be in us, and we will be in them So if that was your Trinity, you will have 15 persons, all the disciples there, including the Father, son, and the Holy spirit So "I and the Father are one" does not mean "I and the Father are God" because all the disciples are one the same way, he and the Father are one, OK? – We refuted that

– I give it to you. You refuted me. No, good job! – You've done well.. You've done very well

– I appreciate the sincerity I appreciate the sincerity, and I ask Allah to guide you Now you went on to bring another verse, which is by the way, it's in John, Chapter:14, verse:6 which says: "I am the way, the Truth, and the life", OK? Now this Verse also does not support you, my friend, you know why it does not support you? You know the Bible better than me! What's it in, John? Yes, John14:6 is what you quoted John14:6, yeah! So it says: "I'm the way, the Truth and the life" "No one can come to the Father except through me", etc. Now this verse does not support you. Do you know why this verse does not support you? Why not? Because if you are THE WAY to something, you are not that thing, you're not the destination If you take the.. A40 or the A60 to go to Stanford, the A60 is not Stanford OK So if Jesus is the way to God, then by definition, - Jesus ISN'T God, because he's just the way to God

- OK If Jesus was God, he would be the destination that we all go to OK He's not going to be who we go THROUGH to the destination OK Now, if Jesus is the way to God, we don't have any issues with that, because we say every Messenger of God is the way to God I cannot know about God at the time of Moses without Moses I cannot know about God at the time of Prophet Muhammad without Prophet Muhammad You cannot know about God without the Messenger who will lead you and be your path, your way to go to that Creator, to go to God Yeah Even the Quran refers to the Prophet Muhammad in this similar terminology about being a path in a way (ashShura42:52) So, we don't have any issue with that description because that is not.. divinity, but not only that, that's not the Trinity in any way, shape, or form! OK, yeah yeah Remember? we're asking about the Trinity; and you brought John But let me ask you a question before that Now, John:14 in the same chapter, let's move a little bit further and go to verse:28 – What does the Verse say?

– Hold on, hold on, can we go to Verse:7 first? – If you want

– So.. let me just say something We only said the first part of that verse: "I'm the way" So why does he say I'm the Truth and the life? Why does he say no one goes to God but through me, why does he say that? The same thing I'm telling you, is that you cannot have eternal life, You cannot know the Truth, which is God without the way to God, which is the Messenger of God, which is Jesus So the Truth, the way, and the life, all of them are included in the statement I'm making Eternal life is only obtained through following the Messenger and the Message that he comes with There's no issues found in verse:7. But now I'm telling you, let's go in the same chapter – You want to say something, yes?

– Sorry, just one more thing. What about Verse:7? "If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also" "and from henceforth ye know Him, and have seen Him." So if you've seen Jesus, you've seen the Father – How do you explain that?

– OK, this is not going to help you again – And I'll tell you why

– I just tell you.. I like it! I like it! No, I'll tell you why it's not going to help you First, do you know the Bible says: No one has seen God? "No one has seen the Father, No one has seen God". Do you know the Bible says that? Where does it say that? If you go to John6:46, it says: "No one has seen the Father" OK, "It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God." "Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me." "Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father." So no one can see the Father, but not only that the Bible says in Exodus33:20, that no one can see God and live – "No one can see me and live"

– OK! So when you try and say that people have seen God which is not the case, by the way, no one have seen God! – Can I say something?

– I'll explain to you.. Sure, sure I see what you're saying in Exodus, but.. – Read:47. Did you read 47? You told me 46, but..

– Go ahead You want to say except who.. Right? Go ahead "He that believes in me has everlasting life" (John6:47) If I believe in Jesus, I have everlasting life, but he's a Prophet! How? No, no, we already agreed on that We already said that if you follow Jesus and what he taught you, this is your way to eternal life I don't have any issues with that He said "He that believes in me" Of course! You have to believe in the Messenger of God In Islam– That's what I'm just telling you We don't have any issues with that In Islam, we have 6 Articles of Faith One of those Articles of Faith is to believe in the MessengerS – plural meaning; if a Muslim says: "I don't believe in Jesus", in Islam, he doesn't go to Paradise, he goes to Hellfire – He's no longer a Muslim

– OK ! So you're bringing things, I understand you think that they are making points, but they're not We don't have any issues. We believe in Jesus We say you cannot enter Paradise without believing in Jesus So telling us that Jesus says you have to believe in me, we're completely in agreement to that. We don't have any issue But now I'm refuting your other verse, before we move on to very different verses You say the people have seen the Father No one has seen the Father (Jo.1:18), No one has seen God and lived (Exo.33:20) No one can see God (1Tim6:16) That's why when Moses asked to see God, do you remember what happened? (Exo.33:18-23) – Yeah yeah

– That's why I quoted to you Exodus If Moses couldn't see God, the disciples are not going to see God Moses is the one who spoke with God, couldn't see God Now, no one sees God and live (Ex33:20). So this verse– By the way, where it says you have seen me, you've seen the Father (Jo14:9) We know the Father is not the Son. Do you agree? The Father is not the Son. No. It is the same being though So the Father is not a Palestinian Jew, right? So when people saw a Palestinian Jew, they didn't see the Father, They saw a Palestinian Jew – OK?

– OK! So what is he referring to? Let me even help you. I'll explain the Bible to you Go a few verses forward, you will see Jesus talking about the miracles Yeah So Jesus will talk about the works that he has done (John14:11-12) And then he will say to the disciples that "if you believe, you will do greater works than me" So he's talking about the works How do we understand that? We look at Acts, Chapter:2, Verse:22 – OK..

– OK. Where it says: "Jesus, a MAN appointed by God" So not God, but a man appointed by God by many miracles and wonders that GOD DID through him and you're a witness to it So, if I see a miracle that a Prophet does, it's as if seeing God because no one can do this miracle except God So that miracle, that work, is the evidence for God in front of me, we've already seen that So this is what Jesus is referring to, and that's why he quotes works And he tells his disciples that you'll do better work than me He's definitely not talking that they've actually have seen the Father because no one can see God So again, you can bring all the verses you like but you'll see the Bible explain them and the Bible itself will respond to them Again now, let's stick on the same Chapter, John:14 Now let's even move a little bit forward.. Yeah, same chapter, but let's go to Verse:28 – 14:28

– Yes OK, where is it? Yep! – "Ye have heard how I said unto you"

– My Father is greater..? I have a KJV, so this is a bit of old English, so I don't know – OK, no problem. You've heard what I've said..

– You read what it says Yeah yeah "You've heard what I've said, I go away and come onto you. If you love me, you'd rejoice.." etc. But then, what does the verse say in the end? "For my Father is greater than I" "The Father is greater than ALL" The Father is greater than I, the Father is greater than all – Now let me ask you a question

– Wait, hold on, hold on.. Hold on? I didn't ask the question yet, but go ahead But bro, I can barely talk! You talk so much, bro No, the point is, my friend: I let you ask your question, but to answer a question is not the same as asking the question because you are asking questions, of course I'll have to respond I'll have to take more time to respond to your questions You're asking me questions, so obviously I'll have to talk more This is me trying to ask you a question, but what do you want to say? Go ahead I wanted to say "No one has seen God" in Exodus because God wasn't in human form yet So how could I even comprehend the living God that's outside of my dimension? Of course I'm going to die if I see that. It's not even.. I can't even comprehend that But when Jesus came, God came into human form, then I could see him So the same thing is "For my Father is greater than I", of course the Father is greater than him The Father is not even in our existence, dude! He created what we are. Of course he's greater in nature than Jesus. Of course! OK, No problem. That didn't answer what I said, by the way but it's not only that, I only quoted to you a few verses But there are other verses that say that no one has seen God in the New Testament, Not Exodus anymore. So it doesn't help you So if you go to John1:18, for example, it will say to you the same thing – "No one has ever seen God"

– Yeah, OK So your argument doesn't work, right? I just gave you a different verse, but there're many verses that, in effect, say the same thing that nobody have seen God in this life People have only seen the Son. This is what the Verse is going to tell you (Jo1:18) "The Son, which is in the bosom of the Father" What does that mean to you? That's for you to explain, not for me, I'm not the Christian but the point I'm making in the verse, let's be clear– You see? you leave the part which is relevant, and then you go to a different part of the verse I want you to focus, when I bring you the verse, on the part that we're using from the Verse Which is: that "No one has ever seen God" So do not tell me about Exodus, because Exodus doesn't help you here I'm just giving you an example The Bible is consistent giving this idea that no one has ever seen God; New or old Testament – OK?

– (Yes) Now, we've already moved on from this idea of seeing God The Verse says "the Father is greater than I" – So the Father is greater than Jesus

– Yeah OK. Do you agree when I presented to you the Trinity, YOU yourself have agreed when I asked you: – Are they co-equal co-eternal? You said yes!

– Yes OK. Was Jesus on earth fully God? Yes, but he was fully man as well No no, "but" doesn't help! I asked you a question – Was he fully God when he was on earth?

– Yeah! So what does it mean to be fully God? It means to have the full attributes of God, the full greatness of God – or you're not fully God

– Yeah So if you have the full Attributes and glory and majesty of God, is anyone greater than you? No, but if you're a human, yes No, again, that doesn't help You're acting as if he only was human If he only was human, then we're agreeing, we're not debating anything now – He was both

– OK, so both So if he was both, then, even though he was human, he still had all the full majesty and glory of God – Right?

– Yeah! Ok, so if he had the full majesty and glory of God, Can anyone be greater than one who has the full majesty and glory of God? – Yeah, yeah

– Fully, 100%, Can anyone be greater than that? – Yeah! God !

– Yeah? you can be greater then! – God in the other..

– No.. I'm not going to say this again I said, if you have ALL the Majesty and Glory of God– Now you're not being sincere, my friend. Look! you were sincere before! Now you're being a little shaky I'm trying to be sincere, I promise you. I promise you.. I just don't agree with you here because he's both It's not about agreeing with me, It's about you admitted to this – You said he is god when he was there

– Yeah Can anyone be greater than God? No So was Jesus God when he was saying this? wait wait.. no no, I'm asking a question – Was Jesus God when he was saying this?

– Yes, yes So how can anyone be greater than him when he was God? But greater in what sense? It's greater in nature See, you're being disingenuous now, you're taking that one out of context – OK, you said greater in nature, right?

– Yeah! Does the Bible say that? – I mean, we come to our conclusions

– You see who's being disingenuous? Look, look! he said: "the Father is greater than I, the Father is greater than all" He's essentially saying– If "than all"; God is greater than all in every way, he never said about nature and no nature.. This is what you're saying, my friend Now, do you know, on top of that, what's really funny? Wait, wait.. There's something very important You're basing all of your arguments on the Hypostatic Union: the 100% God, 100% man, but you've not proven that yet! I'm accepting it because I'm a nice guy, but where does Jesus ever tell you– – That he's 100% man, 100% God?

– He was born from a virgin – So who's the other half of him?

– No problem Being born of a virgin, having a miracle does not make you God You had Melchizedek, who had no Father, no mother, no genealogy, who's eternal in Hebrew7:3 You had Adam being created by God directly, no mother, no Father, no genealogy (Gen2:7) – But Jesus is created by God

– You had Eve created from the rib of Adam (Gen2:22) No no.. If someone is born of a virgin doesn't equal him being God That's not a logical argument there, right? The One Who created him in the womb of Mary– We believe in the miraculous birth by the way, we don't have any issues with it The One Who created him, and sent the Angel Gabriel was God So that doesn't make you God– By the way, you know what you just said? – He was CREATED in the womb of Mary or MADE BORN God is not born, my friend, God is ever living! It's the flesh, the word of God, which is Jesus, who is uncreated, became flesh? So why were you using the argument about the flesh to prove that he's God? If he's just the flesh? But he's not just the flesh! I'm telling you, he was already there, but that flesh was created from Mary And what's the other half? Where does the other half come from? – That's the spirit of God

– No, my friend, let's be honest Were you using the fact that the flesh came out of a virgin as proof that he's God or not? You were! The flesh doesn't support you in any way, shape, or form I'm asking you: where does Jesus say that he has a Hypostatic Union? We already showed you that he says the Father is greater than him – Where does Jesus ever say..?

– But hold on.. Look look, this is what I want between me and you Where does it say? I don't know, I'm going to tell you though – No no.. I provided you with verses

– Yeah Whenever I quote anything, I give you verses as a response, I give you the context And I'm not the Christian by the way – I give you the numbers, I give you the context

– Yeah yeah and I love it, I love it I'm not the Christian, you are the Christian So here, as the Christian, giving us all these beliefs of yours I told you! –And I'm proving it through our discussion– I told you the Christians of today believe not in what Jesus taught, They believe what the church taught – I disagree

– The one who brought you the Trinity was the Church Council in 381, the Constantinople Creed That's why I told you the definition of the Trinity, and you agreed That was the church's definition, by the way, That's not the biblical definition, because the Trinity does not exist anywhere in the text So we went through the text we're looking for, we didn't find the Trinity We didn't find Jesus claiming to be God Now I'm asking you, you claim the Hypostatic Union You have to prove he's God first. You haven't proven that! – OK, can I say it?

– Of course, yes So, you want me to prove it by saying the exact verse, but this [Trinity] is an inference This is how I've interpreted the verse This is how every Christian has interpreted the verse OK, to respond to you: NO, that's not how every Christian has interpreted the verse because you have many groups of Christianity that disagree with you The earlier groups of Christianity, like the Ebionites and the Nazarenes did not believe Jesus was God They believed he's just a Messenger of God You have today Unitarian Christians You have Jehovah's Witnesses -which you don't consider Christians- but they don't believe Jesus is divine There are many other Christians that would interpret the verses different from what you're interpreting them But what you just admitted to is that there is NO CLEAR VERSES saying any of your beliefs So if it's an inference– that's what inference by definition means: Inference, you don't have a clear explicit statement stating what you're saying So you have to INFER the meaning, which can be right and can be wrong To me, as a Muslim -just to finish the statement- As a Muslim, I'm not going to base my Afterlife on an inference of maybe, maybe yes Some Christians believe this, some Christians believe that On the other hand, I did not bring you inferences And I will bring you more verses now – I like it, I like it

– clear cut verses! I brought you a clear cut verse in John:14 "The Father is greater than I" Clear, no inference, I don't need to add anything from myself "The Father is greater than all" I'll give you more verses, but I'll let you respond first I'll give you clear verses! I want to say two things: Inference was the wrong use of a word, OK? And I'll say another thing; I'm not even that locked in on the Bible, I read it once You've probably read the Bible more than me I'm just telling you that.. it's not an inference, it's.. I don't know what the word is that I'm looking for.. And English is my first language, this is crazy! – It's an interpretation, which is the same thing!

– Yeah, it's what we gather from it – It's the interpretation, yeah!

– It's the same thing! By the way, remember my friend, look.. I started a live stream, you came on the live stream, right? So I'm supposing if someone tells me I'm not ready, I'm like: guys, you came to me! – I'm just sitting here chilling

– No, no, bro, I agree, I agree You've then quoted verses Then I'm just sitting here chilling, I don't know what you're going to bring but I told you where these verses are, I gave you responses to these verses It's not about any of that, It's about the Truth – Yeah yeah 100%

– And the Truth is always clear Now, the God in the Bible says "God is not the author of confusion" (1Corinthians14:33) The Bible says that "come, let us reason together" (Isaiah1:18) "let us reason", that's how we come to the conclusion of the Truth Now, you've given me all of these ambiguous verses that are not clear that I've already given you responses for Now, I gave you one clear verse. But let me add you one more clear verse But first, I'll ask you a question: – Does God know everything?

– Does God know everything! Yeah But I already know what you're going to say because we don't agree Because I think Jesus.. Sorry, I know Jesus is 100% man and 100% God I know you're going to say "he didn't know the time" Bro, I know, I've seen this everywhere, I've seen this The fact that you know what I'm going to say does not negate the fact you don't have an answer for it – Now I asked you the question..

– I've given you my answer, you haven't accepted it Let me ask you a question, If I'm 100% God, am I All-Knowing? – If you're 100% God, you?

– Yes I'm a man, I'm fully man, But I'm also 100% God – If I'm 100% God, am I All-Knowing?

– Yeah, but you're not 100% God – No, no.. so, you just refuted yourself to say that he..

– No no – Let me just finish what I'm saying!

– Are you Jesus..? or the actual God in another dimension? Is that the God you're talking about? No, let’s take it down one step and focus with me, step by step – I'm fully man, no one has any issues with that

– OK, you're fully man – 100% man

– Confirmed! – But at the same time, I'm 100% God as well, OK?

– Yeah So if I'm 100% God as well, am I All-Knowing? – Simple question

– That's a good question! You stopped me there! – No, no, you know the answer!

– I give it to you. You stopped me here! Look, the problem is with all of the Christians, they don't understand that when they bring the Hypostatic Union, it doesn't answer the questions Because the Hypostatic Union still says that he's 100% God If you ever say he doesn't know because he's also man, then he's only MAN Because him being god, also would mean that he needs to KNOW That's what being God means That he's also All-Great. That's what being God means. If he's not great, if he doesn't know, if he's weak, then he's NOT God, you're just using a term that doesn't apply to the person God–what we define as God, is The One Who's Ever-Living, All-Powerful, All-Knowing That's what God is So to call someone FULLY God, that means they need to possess all of these attributes If they do not possess all of these attributes, then your saying: "they're 100% God" makes no sense OK OK, I'm going to give it to you because, bro, really, you're cooking me right now! But can I bring up another verse? If you want, of course yes – Bro, I'm being honest as I can right now..

– No, you're being honest and I appreciate that And look! I respect that – We're both looking for the Truth

– Yes, I told you I'm looking for the Truth – Yeah, It's not about who's more intelligent

– Of course! – or who's more versed. It's about finding the Truth

– of course, of course So, St. Matthew:4 – The temptation of Jesus Verse:10 "Get thee hence, Satan! For it is written:" "thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and Him only shalt thou serve" What does that mean to you? That you should worship God alone and serve God alone? Is that what you're asking me? What is your question? Yeah, what does that mean to you? Because Satan's tempting Jesus He's telling Jesus to worship God, right? Jesus is saying to him: "Get away!" "It's written: thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and Him only shalt thou serve" So why would he say that to him? Jesus is telling Satan that the only one worthy of worship and that you should worship and fear is God I COMPLETELY agree with that! Do you know what's funny about that? Is that Jesus is telling Satan – that you should only worship God alone

– Yeah! Do you know that Jesus worshipped the Father? Hold on, Mat:9 says: "and Satan said: all these things will I give Thee if Thou wilt fall down and worship me" – Hold on, my friend. Did you hear my question?

– Yeah You just quoted Jesus saying to Satan that you should only worship God alone, – Yeah

– So if you worship something, it's your God But why did he say that though? Context matters, context matters though I'm telling you, he's telling Satan that the only person you should worship is God – "Fear God!" meaning don't try to deceive me

– Yeah – You should fear your Creator

– Yeah But the point I'm making to you, which you're not answering is: If Jesus said you should only worship God alone, did Jesus worship God alone? Well, I don't know, I don't know. I actually don't know You don't know when Jesus fell in Matthew26:39..? On his head and prayed all night in the Garden of Gethsemane to the Father? – No, no..

– OK, go ahead, Mat26:39 But hold on. This is what I'm saying with 7.. No no but wait, I'm sorry You didn't know that Jesus worshipped God? You really didn't know that? Did he worship him or did he talk with him? Did he commune with him? No, he WORSHIPPED him. It says he fell on his face and he worshipped God – He prayed to God

– OK let's see this, let's see this But look! I see what you're trying to say, but I can already.. – It already make senses in my mind "why"?

– It's not what I'm trying to say, it's what the Bible says – I'm not trying to say anything

– But I see why you're getting that from the Bible I'm saying: I see what you're trying to say, but he's a human and he's God – So of course he would talk like..

– No, no! OK "talk"! No problem, let's talk about "talk". Go to Luke -because you want the word worship- – Sorry, hold on I just wanted to go back to 7

– No no, before going back, Let's establish this point first, and then we'll go back. Go to Luke – Remember though!

– No, we're coming back. It's the same point We're still sticking on the same point. Go to Luke chapter:6 – Luke chapter:6..

– Yes Verse:12, and tell me what it says 12 "And it came to pass in those days that he went out.." "..into a mountain to pray and continued all night in prayer to God." – So what did Jesus do?

– He prayed to God? – OK! So the only one you worship and pray to.. is Who?

– But hold on, the Father is greater than him.. so of course he will pray Come! Come on this side, come, I have some space for you.. You're being a Muslim right now Come! Come! sit over here.. Exactly! Right! Jesus worshipped God, and the Father is greater than Jesus – No no, but he didn't worship!

– We are in the same position, man! Let's shake hands, that's what Muslims believe! – My job is done, my friend

– This is what I'm saying Bro! We have the same belief. We just don't agree on Jesus, right? – No, no..

– Jesus is our God Let me clarify, Look! I have the belief that Jesus had You have the belief that is from the church, that is not in the Scripture Which is why I was questioning you on all this time Now I'm bringing you to the same belief of what Jesus was teaching Which is what Muslims believe, that he was a Messenger A Prophet and Messenger sent by God

(Mat13:57, Mark6:4, Luke4:24) He was lesser than God; because God is greater than everyone

(Jo14:28) He's called "the servant" in the Bible

(Jo13:16) He prayed himself, fell on his face, prayed all night

(Mat26:39) He said the Father is greater than him

(Jo14:29) He did not know the Hour

(Mat24:36) He said he has a God

(Jo20:17) In fact, he said THE ONLY TRUE GOD is the Father (John17:3) – Yeah

– I don't know what else you want than this! He didn't say the Holy Spirit! He didn't say himself! But he said that he went out to a mountain to pray, he didn't say worship God – He continued all-night in prayer.. what is "prayer"

– No no, he prayed to who? – Prayed to who? It's mentioned in the chapter

– Prayed to the Almighty that.. – Pray to the Almighty God

– No no, he prayed to the Father specifically OK, let's say he prayed to God, right? He prayed to God? The Father is the Almighty God – So he prayed to the Almighty God, right?

– Yes – Does God pray to anyone?

– But this is because he's human as well – Wait, wait.. You're getting it

– Yeah, yeah Does God pray to anyone? or do people pray to Almighty God? Look, we're saying the same thing; Jesus was a Messenger praying to the Almighty God, perfect! But he's a man and he's God. That's where we clash heads.. My friend, you see, you've not brought any verse that supports that – Do you know why?

– Yes – Can I tell you why?

– Yes Because that is another belief that came later in the councils in the 5th century Before that This Hypostatic Union came from the church fathers to try to fix the verses that contradict each other They're trying to say that Jesus is divine and God They have the Bible saying other than that So they tried to bring the Hypostatic Union You go to the Bible, it's clear! The Bible never says.. –Jesus! I'm talking about Jesus specifically, because we're talking about what Jesus' taught– Jesus NEVER said I'm 100% man, 100% God Jesus never says: I'm your God.. Wait wait, let me just clarify what Jesus never said, You know, you have this big Bible in front of you? Jesus says everything under the sun in these verses – Right?

– Yeah You have verses saying about how the disciples washed his feet, how he slept.. Everything is there But there isn't a single verse that Jesus says: he's 100% man, 100% God That Jesus says: that he is god almighty, That Jesus says: that he's the creator of the Heavens and the Earth That Jesus says: pray to me That Jesus says: I'm a Trinity, a part of a Trinity.. All of these beliefs that you hold, none of them are present in the Bible, on the tongue of Jesus OK OK, fair enough.. , I'll give it to you.. But, why does Jesus say to Satan: "It is written, thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God"? (Mat4:7) – Why is he calling himself the Lord?

– He's quoting the Old Testament He's quoting a prophecy in the Old Testament. He's quoting the Psalms Hold on "And saith unto him, if thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down. For it is written": "He shall give His angels charge concerning thee; and in their hands they shall bear thee up" (Mat4:6) – He's quoting the Psalms (91:11-16)

– Can you show me that? Yeah, yeah, go to the Psalms By the way, what you're going to do right now.. do you know what you're about to do? – I'm going to help you before you go to the Psalms

– No. No, I don't know No, no, I'm going to tell you what you're about to do What you're about to do; is disprove the crucifixion – OK! But why?

– And I'll show you You'll see. So here Jesus is quoting a prophecy in the Psalms, Ps:91 You remember Jesus was saying how God will have angels protecting him and all of that? – This is what Jesus was saying in Matthew, right?

– Yep yep! By the way, if you have any footnotes in the NT, they will also tell you that he's quoting Ps:91 – Go to Ps:91

– OK, I'm here. I got it here – Read now Ps:91. Let's enjoy Ps:91 together

– The whole thing? – Do it! The whole chapter is in my favour, I don't mind

– Let's do it, Ps:91 Or maybe to save time, we could just highlight verses You go through it now and I'll tell you which verses are important – You read through it now

– OK But I see what you're trying to say already. You want to skip over it? First, I'll skip over it. I have it now in front of me, I'll skip over it for you (Ps91:1-16) "Whoever dwells in the shelter of the Most High" So now it talks about someone who's resting in the shelter and refugee in the fortress of God So God is a Protector of this person, OK? – Which verse?

– This is 1 and 2 That's why I'm saying go through it with me.. we're going through it a bit by bit Now it talks about how "He will cover you under His wing" how "He will not make you fear terror" "No one will come near you, no harm will come near you. No punishment will overtake you" It's clear! "No disaster will ever come near your tent. No harm, no disaster, no punishment" Of course, the crucifixion is the exact opposite of that! So Jesus cannot be saying here that God promised me, and I'm quoting what God promised me, which no harm will ever befall me, but in the same time, I'm put on a cross and killed! –And that's why Muslims do not believe in the Crucifixion– Now, it says that in the same chapter how God is going to send His angels to protect him and how God is going to rescue him "I will rescue him, I will protect him" and how God is going to lift him up And it says: "I will satisfy him and show him my salvation with long life" So it says that He's going to give him long life, protect him, send His angels to raise him up and protect him Do you know who believes that? – Who believes that?

– Muslims believe that! – OK!

– Muslims Muslims believe Jesus was raised up. (anNisa4:158) He was not killed or crucified. (anNisa4:157) – And that's why you see the contradiction

– Wait, why was he raised up though? Because God is saving him from the people that are trying to kill him And God has another mission for him, which we believe in, which is to kill the Antichrist in his second coming – So for now, he is raised up

– OK But the point is this: The point is that God has promised him– according to Jesus himself, because Jesus is the one who quoted Ps:91! So Jesus is telling you, God has promised me protection, Jesus is saying to Satan: I'm protected my friend! God has promised that he's going to rescue me and protect me in the Psalms So you're not going to be able to tempt me or do anything to me – But I don't agree with you, though

– But that's what the Bible is saying – I don't know what you don't agree with

– I clearly didn't agree with you But he clearly says: "it is written: Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God" – Written where?

– It is written in Ps:91 Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God (Matthew4:7) – No problem

– He's saying he's the Lord, thy God to Satan You see, my friend, you're ignoring every clear verse out there I just brought to you And then you're trying to -with all due respect- change Jesus' word – If I say to you right now, YOU..

– I'm not! I mentioned it word for word Let me tell you, YOU– I'm talking to you right now, look at me: "You shall not tempt the Lord, your God" – Does that mean I'm claiming to be God?

– No! OK! So that's exactly what Jesus did. "I'm reminding you..", wait, wait.. My friend, I'm reminding you of a fact, you're trying to do something wrong, I'm reminding you that you cannot tempt God – It's a reminder And I'm telling you that God has promised to protect me – Who's protecting who in Ps:91?

– Hold on. The context is different Satan is saying: if you are the Son of God, throw yourself down – So he's testing him

– No problem! I don't have a problem with that And what's Jesus saying to him? "You can't tempt the Lord, thy God" "I'm the Lord, thy God. You can't tempt me, bro! I'm Him! I'm really Him!" – No no.. Have some respect for your Bible

– Right! Don't put words in the mouth of Jesus, He didn't say "I'm the Lord, your God". YOU said that. OK? So stop doing that to Jesus.. Be a follower of Christ, and don't do that Satan is telling him: "SON of god" which means a "follower of God" Everyone is a "Son of god" in the Bible YOU are changing it to mean that he's claiming to be God I've already showed you! If Jesus is God, he's not going to quote Ps:91 which talks about him being protected by God – OK

– That makes zero sense! That Psalms:91 is talking about someone who is going to be protected by God – Because he isn't God, God is going to protect him

– Yeah So be honest with yourself, you cannot.. I am bro! I'm trying to be as honest as possible. But I don't see what you're saying.. – Let me ask you the question then

– Maybe I'm slow. Maybe I'm slow You don't need to see what I'm saying. Did Jesus say "I am the Lord your God" in this verse? – No..

– OK! So it doesn't help you because it's your own interpretation and understanding.. I didn't bring you my interpretation and understanding. I brought you Ps:91, which Jesus is quoting So you have to be honest with yourself – I'm being honest, I'm trying my best

– He cannot be claiming to be God when he's quoting Ps:91 about someone else other than God who is protected by God But this is what I'm saying to you. He didn't say "I am thy Lord thy God" That was the.. not the "inference". What's the word? What's the word? That are the words you put in his mouth! Which you shouldn't do Noo.. I'm not putting it in his mouth. That's what he were saying! – My friend, Look..

– "If you are the Son of god.." – If you are the Son of god, jump off the cliff

– SON of god.. You don't think Satan knows who God is? You don't think Satan has seen God and spoken to God? Of course! Yeah! So why didn't he say : If you're "God"? – Because he is tempting him

– Why is he telling you if you're "the Son of god"? No no.. So Satan knows he's God, but he's trying to tempt him? Come on! – Yeah! What!

– Come on! Come on! And then he's calling him the Son of god instead of calling him God! Come on! You see how you're not being sincere! Look, let me tell you something – I'm trying, bro

– I've already responded to this verse – I'm sorry

– Let's end with this verse – Let's end with this final blow

– But will I be able to say two things after? Because I got a question about the Quran too – Say them now

– OK Let's finish with the Bible, then if you have questions about the Quran But I have Joe waiting as well, he's been waiting for a while. I have to bring him on – Sorry, Joe Sorry, brother

– It's all right So let's finalise. Go to John, chapter:17, verse:3 – John17:3

– and read it for me 17, read from verse:1 first, where Jesus looks up to heaven and says: Father.. – My bad. I'm on Matthew

– That's OK – You said John:17?

– Yes, first one – "Jesus looks up to heaven and says, Father". Right?

– Yea! – So Jesus is talking to the Father

– Yeah Now, read for me verse:3 "And this is life eternal that they might know THEE, the ONLY TRUE GOD, and Jesus Christ.." – Wait!

– "whom THOU has sent" Yeah yeah! He spoke about that as well, my roommate! OK. So I'm asking you the question now. If he says "the Father", The Father is not the Son. The Father is not the Holy Spirit. The Father is the Father Focus with me here not anywhere else.. Because we don't want to keep jumping again If Jesus says the ONLY TRUE GOD is the Father – Do you know what that's called my friend?

– Tawheed (Pure monotheism) Thank you! Do you know what it's also called? It's called an explicit statement. You see I don't have to.. jump around the bush and try to tell you: – "he means this", "he means that", "but this means.."

– Yeah yeah – I don't need to do any of that!

– Yeah yeah.. – Because in reality he says it for me, OK?

– I like it, I like it bro! – And I rest my case here

– I like it! – Jesus has said the Tawheed

– Yeah – That there is only one God worthy of worship

– Yeah Only One True God, which is Allah. And he is sent by that God, which is the belief of Muslims Now, you have questions about the Quran, right? Sorry bro! I'm so sorry. Joe, brother, I'm so sorry as well.. I'll just say one thing, and what about 2 though? (Jo17:2) "And Thou hast given him power over all flesh" "that he should give eternal life to as many as Thou hast given him" – Look look my friend

– Who gives all power but God? Listen.. Trust me. You don't know, but you're making it worse! – Yeah?!

– I'll tell you now, I'll tell you why If I say: "you have been given all power". Did you have it before? Did I have it before? Whooaaa! That is actually good! If someone gives me all the power, can I ever be God? Or do I always possess all the power? I'm telling you, you're making it worse, my friend! – I'll give it to you

– Honestly, I'm trying to help you! No! I give it to you. OK Fair enough, you got me on that one! You got me on that one! OK. So let's go to the questions on the Quran, please. I don't know.. let's go to the questions please.. But hold on. I'm so sorry, bro! The second half.. "And he should give eternal life to as many..". Why does Jesus give eternal life? – OK. Can you close the Bible now?

– Sorry! There is a sock in my Bible! OK, closing the Bible, we're done with it – I already responded to you about giving eternal life

– Yeah it's done God has given him authority to be a Messenger, and through him, you get eternal life – We already responded to that

– OK OK – So let's go to the questions about Islam, yes?

– OK What're the questions about the Quran before we finish? Just so I give you an opportunity as well, yes? I kind of think it contradicts itself, to be honest I actually had the same conversation with my mate before Sure. Where? Where does it say that Jesus was crucified? or they sent someone else in his place? No, they didn't say that: "Someone was made to appear as him". Where is that in the Quran? in Chapter:4 (anNisa) of the Quran, verse:157 It says: وَقَوْلِهِمْ

(And their statement) إِنَّا قَتَلْنَا ٱلْمَسِيحَ عِيسَى ٱبْنَ مَرْيَمَ

(We killed the Messiah, Jesus the son of Mary) وَمَا قَتَلُوهُ وَمَا صَلَبُوهُ

(They did not kill him nor crucify him) وَإِنَّ ٱلَّذِينَ ٱخْتَلَفُوا۟ فِيهِ لَفِى شَكٍّۢ مِّنْهُ

(And those who are in disagreement about him are in doubt) Yeah! (They have no certain knowledge about him, and for a surety, did not kill him) Then the next verse says: بَل رَّفَعَهُ ٱللهُ إِلَيْهِ

(Allah raised him to Him) So this is what the verse is saying – So what is your question?

– So my question is, that's the Jews talking, right? – No. It's Allah talking

– It's Allah saying that's the Jews talking, yeah? It's; Allah says: وَقَوْلِهِمْ (And their statement). In the Arabic language, that is applying to anyone who said they killed or crucified Jesus, the son of Mary because it's a general statement So Allah, if he wants to quote the Jews only, He will say with the statement of the Jews, or the statement of these people. In the context, you will see Allah talks about the Jews, no problem But this specific verse is also including anyone who makes that statement I وَقَوْلِهِم any statement, of anyone that: "we've killed or crucified Jesus, the son of Mary" Whether it is the Romans, whether it is the Jews, whoever boosts and makes up that claim, – Allah is refuting them

– OK! It's about refuting the claim that Jesus was not killed or crucified Hold on.. But was there someone else crucified? Now, this is what the verse is just telling you, the verse is telling you: "they did not kill him or crucify him, but it was made to appear onto them so" Which means that people at the time believed Jesus was crucified. Number:1 And then it goes on to tell you that NO ONE KNOWS! Allah is telling you in the verse: those who have assumptions about what happened, have no certainty about what happened So, Allah has not told us exactly what happened, but he told us the facts that matters The facts that matters is that he was not killed, and he was not crucified But it's a historical fact that he was killed on the cross OK, now we're going to Christianity again. If you want to go, I can tell you why it's not historical fact! – No, this is history..

– No no, it's not history. I'll tell you why – Do you know why it's not history?

– Why? You do not have a single eyewitness account recorded, of anyone having seen Jesus being crucified or killed You have generally historians saying Jesus was killed Do you know why they say Jesus was killed? Because Jesus was a human being and all human beings die And historians would naturally record a human being died – Of course, of course

– There's no issues with that. No one disagrees with that. But more importantly, I just told you Wait wait.. More importantly, I just told you the Quran says they believed it So to tell me people believe Jesus was crucified or killed does not contradict the Quran in any way, shape or form But in reality, Who knows everything is God And I just told you, you have no eyewitness, not a single eyewitness account to show that In fact, if you want me to go to the Bible -and I don't want to go to the Bible again- If you want to go to the Bible, I'll show you again from the Bible, I already showed you Ps:91. But I have more verses to show you How the accounts in the Bible do not support the crucifixion of Jesus But, you asked me about Islam, I'm responding to you about Islam We have no issues with what history says, because the Quran says people believed it And then Allah refused the claim that it happened, saying that it didn't happen But why would people believe it, though, if they didn't see it happening? There's many people who didn't believe it ! It's not that everyone believed it Now people believe it, because now it's based on the later consensus of the Church taking place And then no earliest manuscript of the Bible is ever found. The earliest you have is 400 years after Jesus So it doesn't matter what people agreed upon later on what happened at that time is different I just want to ask you You said before the Word of God.. it shouldn't be hard to interpret, – Right? You said that

– No, there's nothing hard to interpret here – We shouldn't be confused in interpreting the texts

– No, no I didn't say that. I just said God is clear when we talk about God; – God is clear

– Clear! – Very good!

– I quoted for you the Bible – “God is not the author of confusion” (1Cor14:33)

– Very good So when we talk about God's identity, who God is, what God wants from us, – all of these things need to be clear

– OK. So, this is what I want to say to you – We had the Bible, Right?

– Wait, let's make that a last thing – because I do have..

– This is the last one – So we had the Bible, correct?

– OK Early Christians believed the same thing I believe – for 500 years until the Quran came?

– That's not true – But how is it not true?

– Do you know who the Ebionites are? The who's? – Ebionites

– (No) – Do you know the Nazarenes?

– (No) These are one of the earliest groups of Christianity talking about 70AD and others And I can name you many other groups These groups did not believe that Jesus was God Or a part of the Trinity or any of these things that you believe today – Are you sure?

– I'm not sure. I'm positive You can just Google it right now in a minute and you will see what I just told you – I'm going to look into it

– These groups are called heretical now Why? Because Constantine, when he adopted Christianity in the Roman Empire, And he conducted the Council of Nicaea in 325, And they were arguing whether Jesus is equal to the Father or not, – In 325AD, 325 years later,

– Yeah, that's all the time – Oh, they're still arguing about this! yeah?

– Yeah yeah And you had Arius, who holds the position of Subordination, saying that Jesus is a demigod, is a lesser god, he is not equal to the Father And then you have Athanasius arguing; no, they're co-equal, co-eternal And then they're conducting the council: OK, they're equal. Co-equal, co-eternal And then everyone else who doesn't believe that is a heretic And they will burn any other writings that are against that OK! And then you have 381AD and they add the Holy Spirit This is your history, my friend, this is Christian history Bro, I have so many questions But I wish I could talk to you more. I really wished I could talk to you more – There's one important question

– Yeah? When are you ready to become Muslim? Is the question to be asked. That is the most important question, my friend, for you to be asking, right? – No, no..

– All of these questions are just.. – beating around the bush

– No no, I like it Bro! Bro! Honestly, thank you so much You did open my eyes on how much more I need to study my Bible so I can come back and we can really clash it out. – But God bless you brother

– This is the last thing I'm going to say to you, my friend: Unlike your friend asking you questions and making you think, – I'm giving you answers

– I love that! God bless you And your conclusion shouldn't be: "Oh no! I'm going to be stronger in my faith" No! Your conclusion should be: "I need to be SINCERE" and if these things that he's saying are true, Jesus cannot be God if he doesn't possess the Attributes of God, There is no Trinity mentioned in the Bible, Jesus does not claim to be God, History of the early church shows us that this comes from there, The Bible is not preserved because it's 400 years late... If these things are true, then a sincere person would leave that, because it is not the Truth You remember what you asked me in the beginning of the talk? – If Christianity was the Truth..

– Yes! – Now I'll give you the same question:

– Yes! Yes bro! It's not "if" Islam is the truth. Islam IS The Truth And I've given you some of the reasons why it is the case today If I come to my own conclusion that is the Truth, I convert straight away But right now, I just don't agree with you because I'm going to look into everything that we spoke – Is this recorded? Can I watch this back?

– Yes, I will upload it InshaAllah (God's willing) – It will be uploaded very soon,

– Perfect! Perfect! – and I can perhaps send it to you

– God bless you, I'm good, please – Just email me I might send it to you as well

– OK OK Go do your research. All the references will be on the screen, and I'm more than happy.. for YOU to come back and take your Shahada (Testimony of Faith) once you're done with your research – All right, my friend?

– That's crazy.. – It was a pleasure talking to you

– Thank you so much Just– When are you live streaming next? I want to come back. I want to talk to you again Not next week, probably the week after next week OK. God bless you, brother. Good luck for Ramadan (Fasting month) Good luck with everything, bro God bless you – I appreciate it, thank you very much

– Thank you for your time – All right, my friend,

– I appreciate it – See you. Bye-bye

– Sorry, Joe. Sorry, mate. Bye