My Thoughts On Pleroma

Hello, my name is Tina. Welcome to my channel. Tonight I would like to share my thoughts on Pleroma. Um yes, it is a fascinating subject because I mean Pleroma um uh on other hand some peo- some people call it the source. Uh represents this God figure, this absolute everything, this um uh source where we apparently all came from. Um the creator of everything uh that represents that summary of um all that ever was created and ever will be. And many people even um prepare that one day when they finish with this uh reality here uh when this uh journey is over that they're going to um um like go back to that uh source. Well, I have a huge problem with um identifying myself with uh Pleroma because for one thing uh what is exactly uh that source? Well, for what I understand, from my point of view, um this is a source of uh everything which means it contains duality within too. So, there's um everything like um state of absolute like fullness and emptiness, uh light and dark, good and evil. It's like a um summary of everything that it contains within. Um and what exactly that is? Does it have any consciousness? Um I don't think so because um if it's a like if it is representing um a state of something, okay? Um I don't think the um it has ability to communicate individually or even uh to um express itself in any like individual manner. Uh I see it like a um container, okay? Where everything is contains everything that was ever um discovered, connected, created. Um it's of everything. And now, when people say that they would like to go back to the source where they came from, um how does it going to um end? I mean, if you uh mixing yourself with something that contains both good and evil, okay? And let's assume that you are um of the good stock, your soul is good and you um all your deeds were correct and and between your um um sovereignty or whatever, you know, I mean, whatever it represents everything good about about you. And suddenly, with the good faith, um you're joining this source that's got everything, a bit of this, bit of that. And because it doesn't have like individual um connection with um uh the creation because it's like a summary of everything sits there, you jump in it and you're mixing with it. Uh what is going to result um be like? I don't like it because um first of all, why do I don't I like it? I'm an individual and so are you. We are all individuals, okay? Because we all individuals, uh we've got um our own individuality within our soul, within our core, who we are. We've got identity. We've we each got our own consciousness, okay? So, if you're dissolving all that with something that um it's independent of you, okay? But at the same time represents everything and anything, okay? Um all that thing that you're bringing in, um I see massive danger in losing who you are, losing this identity identity, okay? You dissolve everything that it's uh spells you, okay? I mean, I have to mention here Carl Jung um that um he expressed his concerns about Pleroma that um um once you blend with it basically, um it's it's obviously said that all is one in there. So, you become all and one. Uh the individuality, okay? Who you really are, dissolves. And this is like um mm for me it's a it's a massive danger um uh uh it represents danger, yeah, because it dissolves um your individual identity. And once your individual identity is gone, okay? Um you're losing that, then it's like your consciousness um disappears too because um you cannot exist men- mingling with something like this and still be um individual and acting individually. If you it's like pouring um some liquids into the big container, okay? Imagine that you've got several glasses of something and you're pouring and mixing everything. Suddenly, the flavor disappears, the color disappears, the texture disappears and it becomes one mess. I mean, mess, texture, whatever it's in that container that you're pouring in. Um this is how I see it, yeah. And I don't like it because I like my own identity. Uh some people may say, "Yeah, it's your ego talking in here." And basically, you're following something that it's um uh rather belongs to this world. And yeah, people lots of people I've noticed have massive issue with ego. I personally don't have a issue with ego because ego is part of you, part of your individuality, of who you are. Without ego, there would be no expression. There there would be nothing. It's It's like it's going to be one flat thought, okay? So, ego in my opinion makes you who you are, okay? Individuality of your soul is expressed through your uh through ego basically. So, yeah, I mean, this is something that I I don't think I would like to lose because I like myself. I like to express myself and I like to feel that I'm existing independently because existing within something that uh dissolves your identity, okay? When it takes away um who you are, changes everything really. Yeah, um this is like um uh Pleroma is like a like a big you know, you're going into it, you take like a big jump into the dissolution. You you dissolve, okay? You disappear. And I don't think that um um this is the way to exist because uh why would you even be here on this uh planet, okay? And suffer for many years and and learn and experience and all that only to go to some source and lose it all, all the experience, all the individual thinking and all this awareness, all the sovereignty. It will be gone. Yeah. So, I think this is this is the playing place actually the Pleroma that represents death. Yeah, death of your consciousness. And because all what we have is the consciousness. I mean, we express ourselves in here through our consciousness in here. Once you leave the body, your consciousness continues to the other side. And then it is again, if you decide to join some Pleroma because you decide that you are ready to dissolve into some um creator's uh head, into some source head, uh then you're basically giving this message to whoever, whatever up there above. Again, that's another thing. It's uh Pleroma represents outside force. Yeah, it's not here, it's up there. Yeah, Pleroma it's outside force. Therefore, you're talking here about external force. And any external force that you're looking up to or submitting yourself into will take this lead over you. That means your sovereignty will be gone. Your freedom of choices will be gone. And basically, um you're at the mercy of something of some source that yeah, I mean, we know nothing about. I mean, there there have been things written about it, people talk about it, yeah. But um uh something that represents everything and and anything really, yeah, especially that it's filled with with duality, I would not be jumping into. I mean, for one thing, look at like this, guys. We are here on this planet, okay? What you see here, yes, this is the system of duality. Both both good and evil reincarnates here. And look this at the state of this place. Think for a moment. Look around. Uh how well this duality serves this uh um this reality in here. It doesn't really work, does it? I mean, there's lots of uh uh Everything is like contradicting each other. Um there's lots of um conflicts and lots of wars, lots of different opinions, lots of I mean, because we are individuals and we are within the duality system. Yes, and that duality expressed in here results in many conflicts. So, if you're thinking about Pleroma that contains also both good and evil, okay? And and you're thinking of joining and it's what um existence would you have that is different from the one that you have already uh witnessing within this reality? There wouldn't be much different except that you're going to be in a different form. Obviously, you're going to um be free of physicality of this body. Uh but your consciousness, um everything that you ever knew while in here, your awareness will be going into that um into that spot. And um I mean, Pleroma I'm talking about. So, um joining um it's like going from one prison almost to another except that that other prison is is the final uh that there's no um getting out of it because you're going to be dissolved, changed. I mean, um I heard once that um uh some people want to get go to Pleroma because it represents that um uh fulfillment, that uh highest fulfillment of everything they ever wanted. And also it um uh shows the to these people that they finally reached some sort of um like uh finishing line of their existence altogether. That is means um the total of um how many reincarnations they had here, whatever else they were existing. And that total have been fulfilled, reached so they can go back to the source. And then what what else? Um the same people say, "Yeah, I mean, we're going to be recycled back again because uh another cycle of knowledge and another cycle of learning and expanding and evolving uh would have to start. So, what's the point? What's the point if you apparently achieved everything, okay? If you are um have this awareness that you've learned everything that you wanted to learn, that you know apparently everything that you that you know, and you're you're willing to to be dissolved again only to come and and repeat everything from from scratch. Uh well, to be honest, I mean, I don't see much um value in it uh and I think it's rather um a worrying um and macabre um scenario because um I personally would not like to be recycled again. Um I mean, it's bad enough to be recycled within this reality here through um the reincarnation loop. And never mind to reaching some sort of absolute godhead and even and there be totally uh defragmented, dissolved uh into nothingness and uh your consciousness maybe going to be rebuilt or whatever, but I don't see how consciousness can be rebuilt once it's destroyed. Yeah, people say here that the consciousness is infinite and it can never never be destroyed. Um well, I'm looking at it because what happens? I thought myself until very recently that that's the case. But um with this um Pleroma um above, okay? That changes the game because that means uh the consciousness actually um can only be recycled within the reincarnations when we are here in this reality, okay? And once you reach that um um top spot of everything apparently that um you're going to be um dissolved. It's like discarded like a piece of garbage, okay? And restarted in some shape or form, whatever, without you even knowing that it's that it's you because your consciousness will be basically mixed um with everything and anything within this duality pot uh that Pleroma pot I call it, okay? It's for the for simple description, okay? Um yes, because I mean, how else can I call it? A god? Uh a some source? Uh I like to think um along the terms um uh of shapes, of something that is easy to picture and imagine. So, I call it like a little um box maybe of something like a you know, container uh that everything goes into. And it's a horrific thought that um you suffer through many reincarnations here on this planet, okay? Only to end up in some highest spot that you experience everything and anything only to to what? To be dissolved? Yeah, because everything points to it. I'm sorry. This is what it is. Um I don't fancy myself to be totally dissolved. I mean, to be honest, um I am here as I am because I'm I mean, I'm conscious. But if I would rather not exist, um yeah, that's a good question because I mean, if you don't exist, okay? You don't know that you exist and you don't suffer. But once you exist, we are obviously here, uh it's difficult, very difficult. So, um yeah, no, it's not for me, to be honest, not for me. I mean, I'm simplifying here a lot. I'm just talking about Those are my own thoughts. Uh this is how I see it. And I don't like the idea of uh being sucked into and and melt and mixed with with everything and anything uh to be recycled uh again. But that kind of recycle would be even more macabre than any reincarnation here because I think um quite I mean, quite few. Um Some people remember still their previous lives like, you know, through hypnosis, through regression. But once you come after you've been dealt with that Pleroma, it's I picture like something um gone forever and the new aspect of consciousness emerging from it. And I don't really like it because I I mean, I see it like a massive monster sitting up there, that container uh of mixture of everything without any consciousness of individuality. But uh like spitting something randomly out of its mouth, creating a life here, creating life there. And it's all distorted without any order, without without any um any thought to it. Um yes, uh this is very um it's interesting, but it's also horrifying thought to me. Uh because I I don't like uh the idea of being um recycled um on that level when you when you really really strived and let's say somebody existed here for thousands and thousands of years from going from one reincarnation to another and then finally that person becomes sort of like a guru of evolution and reaches that highest spot. And then what? Oh, you go to Pleroma. Yeah. And then then then then what? What are you going to do there in that Pleroma? Sit in a bliss? No, you're not going to be sitting in a bliss because it's a source. It's it's a source of some sort of that's what they say it represents, source. So, yes, it's not something that I would like to even consider. And um as long as I'm conscious, as long as I'm um I've got ability to be aware, okay? I would never accept or consent to join any source that would want to swallow me up, defragment me, chew me up and spit me out in some form of different pieces of consciousness or of the new creation. Um I I don't think so. I I I'm not like I don't want to be treated like some sort of building material for new aspects of consciousness thrown around. No. Um that's how I see it. It's it's it's deep, really. Um and um when I look at it, I've been thinking about it recently. Uh it's really honestly, I mean, I I'm very surprised um how many people up there actually um thinking along those lines that they would love to go and uh exist within that blissful state of um uh you know, the Pleroma uh space place called creator, whatever. Uh to me, it doesn't represent anything basically because I cannot even identify myself uh within that state of mind um um that Pleroma may I mean, I don't know. It doesn't have state of mind. It doesn't. It's uh um I cannot even identify with it because I don't think it's it's like a thinking uh mechanism of anything. It's a total of everything, uh all the experiences. Uh I think it's like uh some people say, "Oh, God is everywhere and God knows everything." Uh well, I don't look at it uh like that because to me uh being um part of something that knows apparently everything and yet it does nothing when the creation is absolutely in the diabolical state, um you know, yeah, I I got big problem with that. So, that's why I my main reason is to stay away because that sort of source that doesn't take care of its creation. It's not worthy of of my attention even. I mean, I'm not talking out of ignorance. I'm talking about my own personal experience that um um what I've witnessed that we are not here to be supported. We are here basically being thrown into massive sea of It's like a lottery basically because um we don't know We know where we came from here, but we don't know where we going to go after, okay? This is the problem. And the lottery is I mean because again you can end up in a in a wonderful place if you have the right awareness. And you can be wonderful person, but because you lacking the awareness, you may end up in not so wonderful place. This is the the whole problem, yeah. That's why I'm saying, guys, while you here, work on your awareness. Become solvent because solvency will help you to make choices. Yes. Choices how to leave this recycling basically here and also to make the choice what you where you want to go from after you leave the recycling recycling place because this is recycling that is conducted through the lower astral. And the trick is to bypass lower astral after you finish with the reincarnation. And what you do there? Many people say, "Yeah, yeah, Pleroma." No, no, no. The point is that if you know that you are solvent being, you want to continue as a solvent being. You don't want to join anything any source, any god, any anything that represents some any higher outer authority, external authority that will tell you what to do basically. And will guide you and condition you to do certain things obviously to come back here and do everything over and over again. So, yes, there's there's a lot to think about because um um yes, there's lots about it, but at the same time very little about it up there. If you're looking for this kind of information, um it is very difficult to to come to something that you can say, "Oh, yes, this is the one. This is the information that that represents the truth." It's very difficult because nobody knows the total truth. My observations are based on my own opinion, on my own seeking, on my own observations in here within this reality. Um and yes, I'm I said it many times and I said again that I do not know everything, okay? I only know what I'm able to find within this um reality of restrictions and reality that we are very um like controlled basically. We are We We don't have total freedom of our thoughts and I mean actions when it comes to the things that really really matter. So, anyway, that would be it for today. Thank you for watching my video. And hope you like it. See you next time. Take care. Bye-bye.