Christian Attempts To Trap A Muslim Using The Quran But It Backfires! Muhammed Ali

Okay. Okay. Well, my question was about uh the Quran surah 546. It calls the gospel guidance and light and then 547 tells the people of the gospel to judge by what Allah has revealed in it. So my question then is was that gospel usable for Christians back then or was it not? >> Perfect. Uh, I have a question for you that will answer your question. Can you read the next verse? 548. >> Sure. >> We revealed to you, O prophet, this book with the truth as a confirmation of previous scriptures. >> So, one second. >> Supreme. >> Yeah. I'm going to stop you a bit by bit if you allow me while you were reading the verse. So, we revealed to you, oh, prophet this book that refers to what? >> The gospels. revealed to prophet Muhammad the gospels. No, this verse is talking to Prophet Muhammad and we revealed to you a prophet. Yeah. So, this is talking about the Quran, right? >> Oh, scriptures. >> Yeah. So, then of course it's talking now about Yeah. So, here Allah is talking about the Quran. So Allah says that we reveal to you oh prophet Muhammad the Quran as a confirmation for the previous scriptures and as a criterion authoritative over it which means it corrects any mistakes in it clarifies any issues in it. So now what is the continue reading >> okay uh so judge between them by what Allah has revealed >> follow their judge between them. Yeah. So judge between them between who? the the people you just called the the people of the book the Christians and the Jews judge between them with what with what Allah has revealed which is what >> what Allah has revealed >> which is what the Quran >> the Quran okay >> so Allah is telling prophet Muhammad here you got these people that we revealed the gospel to in the past and we revealed the Tawra to in the past now judge between them now because people who don't who leave the verses out of context so now we reveal to you the Quran so judge between them with the Quran and do not follow their desires and do not Let them persuade you away from that which was revealed to you. Look, this verse cannot be more clear than it is. I'm not going to lie. So, Christians would read this verse and be like, "Oh, the Quran says follow the Bible." Like, this verse is explicitly telling the Prophet Muhammad, "Do not judge except with the Quran. Do not judge with the scriptures of the previous people. Do not listen to their desires and do not let them persuade you from judging with the Quran." I mean even Islamic say that this is like [snorts] >> we agree before we go to Islamic we've already read the Quran itself explicitly telling the prophet Muhammad do not follow the desires judge between them with the Quran >> yeah by what has been revealed right so it's like >> which is the Quran which was said in the beginning >> yeah but it's not saying it's not saying that >> I mean even in the previous verse it was saying that by what has been revealed in the gospel. >> Yeah. The previous verse talks about the past previous vers he's not saying he's not saying that the gospel is wrong. He's just saying that use this use the Quran as your guide to understand. >> We don't say the gospel is wrong. It depends on what you mean by that. By the way, when we say the gospel, we're talking about the gospel of Jesus. We're not talking about the four gospels of Mark, Matthew, Luke, and John. Quran doesn't talk about this anywhere. We're not talking about your Bible. We're talking about the gospel, the injil. This is referring to the on the Okay. So let's first make a distinction so you don't get these seventh century. >> One second if you allow me just to if you just allow me to finish. So specifically referring to the scriptures here is not talking about Mark, Matthew, Luke and John. Doesn't say Mark Luke and John doesn't say the Bible. But more importantly we're not saying anything about wrong there. It says that the Quran corrects it's a criterion. What the criterion does? What is authority does? It it thean also Allah calls thean the differentiator of truth from falsehood. That's why the Quran repeatedly corrects the previous scriptures like about prophets and and them committing all of these hideous acts that the ascribed to them in the Bible like about God resting on the seventh day like about Jesus being God like about the trinity. >> It doesn't say correct allow me to finish. No, it says yeah. What does that mean? Why? What does >> Well, it seems like it's a it's a it's a it's an authority over it. So, it gives you some understanding of it. It doesn't say it's wrong. If the Quran say okay so let me ask this question. So Quran is authority over the Bible correct. >> So if the Quran say >> teaches how to understand it. >> So so answer this question. Okay no problem. It teaches you how to let's take your your position. The Quran's authority over the Bible means it teaches you how to understand. I'm going to we're saying the Bible. It's not the Bible. So Quran is authority over the gospel. But let's let's take this whichever understanding you want. The Quran is an authority over the gospel the Bible. Whatever you want to say Quran is authority over it. So if the Quran says Jesus is not God, then you're misunderstanding your scripture when you think Jesus is God because it's authority. >> Well, no understand it. >> Does it does the Does the Quran say that Jesus is not God? Anyway, the point is though it does say 547. >> It does say that. >> Can we focus on that? Can you answer the question I asked for? >> Okay. Okay. That's fine. I'm asking the question. >> All right. All right. Okay. Let's let's maybe that maybe I'm not sure about that. But the point is though if 547 is saying that >> maybe like >> Well, if I Well, here's my point. Here's my point. If 547 is saying that they should use the gospel >> to judge by what Allah has revealed in it and it >> No. No. >> They It's not telling them to check the Quran. It's telling them to check the Gospel, right? >> 5:47. No, it's not. It's not telling you. What do you mean? What do you mean no? What do you mean no? >> I'll I'll answer you now. >> Let the people of the gospel. >> You want me to answer you? Do you want me to answer? >> Well Well, my my my question is, hold on a sec. It says, "Let the people of the gospel >> judge by what Allah has revealed in it, right?" >> Uh, sure. >> So, it's telling us we are the people of the gospel. >> Telling us to the people of the Bible. >> Allah has revealed the gospel. >> But yeah. Okay. Do you want me to answer you? >> Well, well, okay. Well, what like I don't the other thing you were saying is that it's not the it's not Matthew, Mark, Luke, John. So, what book does what what book were they supposed to use at the time? >> Sure. I'm going to answer you now. I'm going to answer you now. I'm going to answer you now. So, please pay pay attention to what I'm saying without stopping me. Then you'll understand this very simply and very clearly. Allah in the Quran and if you go few verses before, if you go to 45, you go to just a couple of verses before Allah talks about the Tawra. Allah says we send down the init guidance and light for the prophets so they can judge and then the verse says and judge with what Allah has revealed again says the same thing that is saying what the gospel says about the Tawra then after that it says then after so first here we have a historical chronological order Allah first revealed the Tawra that the prophets and Moses and the other prophets judged with then history continued there's progressive revelation Allah revealed the gospel, not the Bible, the gospel. So let the people of the gospel at the time of Jesus judge with the gospel. Then Allah continues the progressive revelation. Then we reveal to you all prophet the Quran. You see very clear historical narrative here. The people of Moses and the prophets judge with the Tawra. The people of Jesus at the life of Jesus before Prophet Muhammad judge with the gospel not the Bible. And then oh Prophet Muhammad now we sent you. >> Then now oh prophet let me finish what I'm saying now. Oh prophet Muhammad we sent you the last progressive final revelation now judge between all of the people with the last progressive final revelation. So when you talk about the verse before we say yeah the verse before is referring to the people of Jesus at the life of Jesus to judge with the gospel at the time of Jesus which we believe completely. The verses before about Moses and the prophets talks about the people at the time of Moses and the prophets and verse 48 which is clear then says now or prophet Muhammad judge between them all of the previously mentioned people judge between them the Quran because the Quran is the supreme authority and the Muhamm and the dominator over the previous scriptures. >> Okay. Okay. So who is who is 547 talking to? >> 547 says so let the people of God judge >> I'll answer you now. Sure. Mhm. >> 47 talks about a statement. A state it's making a statement that we sent in the footsteps of Moses as a statement and we told the people that 546 that's 546. >> Yeah, of course. So we it's talking about Jesus. >> I'm talking about 547. I'm talking about >> who's the gospel revealed to who's the gospel revealed to? >> Yeah, it was revealed to Jesus. But in 547 >> these two verses are connected obviously. So I mean you take wait. So 547 says, "Let the people of the gospel judge." >> Yes. >> Let them judge in it's written in the seventh century. >> And it's saying, "So let the people of the gospel judge." >> Who is he talking to? Who's he talking to in chapter 10? >> Okay, I'm going to say this one more time and please I want you to listen because I I don't want to say something disrespectful, but I don't have this. No, I No, you know what? It's fine. I I kind of understand what you're saying, but I don't understand why >> what am I saying? >> I I think you're saying that he's talking to the people of Jesus's time. >> Allah making a statement. Allah is making No, no, no, no. Allah is making >> He's saying let the people of the gospel judge, right? He's saying, "Let the people >> Allah is making a statement." >> Allah is making a statement about a historical thing that happened. >> Allah says that when we sent after we sent Jesus, we said, "Let the people." That's what Allah is saying essentially that he said to the people let the people of the gospel judge with Allah reveal that that happened historically that's not what it says >> Allah that that is what it says because it's a chronological historical order and the next and the next verse explicitly okay look this is the problem you cannot take the Quran you can you can you guys can play games all you want sorry all the respect like the Christians that try to take out context >> but these verses but these verses are in context they are in the context of understand the context. Now, now here's >> okay, you seem to be taking out of the context. Hold on, hold on a sec. >> 546, he's talking about that period when Jesus walked the earth. Then in 547, he says, "So let the people of the gospel judge." And he's saying it's in the time in the present tense. Let the people >> I'm gonna you know the problem is with what we have to do with Christians is that they force their misunderstanding which you already explained to them it's a misunderstanding but I can accept your misunderstanding and it doesn't help you. Let's accept your misunderstanding. So Allah is telling them judge with the gospel. >> Yeah. >> So they don't have a gospel. So what are you going to do now? >> What? Well, why would he tell them to judge by the gospel if they don't have the gospel? >> Exactly. So do you you realize now your misunderstanding is a misunderstanding because they have not they have no no it's not it's not no it's because you are ignoring the next verse which already explains why he >> I'm not I'm not ignoring anything I'm saying I don't want to mute you let me finish what I'm saying you asked me I made it very simple for you but you still want to argue for sake of arguing you said I told you if this verse is saying to them judge with the the seventh century you say saying to them judge with the gospel we know Allah told us that the gospel has been changed there's no gospel anymore there at that time doesn't exist. So if so if in many places in 275 of the Quran 279 it talks about also in in chapter 3 of the Quran before we move on from the topic let me finish what I'm saying >> further evidence >> before we move on don't let don't let me don't let me finish what I'm saying because you want to move on you not let me speak I said I don't want to mute you I said I I made it very simple >> for you I said to you look if you want to stay if you want to say you want to claim that this is telling the people judge with the gospel we have no problem absolutely no problem okay we agree so let's let's try to take this misunderstanding so it says to the people judge with the gospel. There is no gospel. How can they judge with the gospel when there is no gospel? So this must be a misunderstanding. How do we know? We read the next verse. The next verse then says to us and then we reveal to you, oh prophet Muhammad, the Quran, the Quran is the authority, the criterion. So judge between them and the Quran. Do you know what the verse after it says? >> Wait, can you talk? >> You know, no, no, no. You got to first answer the question I asked you. Do you know what the verse after it says? >> Read it. >> It says uh as a confirmation of previous scriptures. So it's confiring 48. We already read 48. But the funny thing is this 48 is saying and we revealed to you the Quran. So judge between them in the Quran. 49 is saying it again. 49 is saying and judge between them with what Allah has revealed and do not follow their desires. And be careful. Be careful. Be aware that lure you away. Let me finish. That they do not lure you away from the Quran. So the Quran keeps repeating the same thing. And these guys are reading are like what's going on here is like tell you once judge with the Quran do not follow the desires the next verse again judge with the Quran again do not follow the desires but these people are just keep repeating the same circle of misunderstanding okay I give you my understanding I give you the answer you don't have to agree with it unless you >> what I'm saying to you is no what I'm asking you is now what I'm asking you is how could it be that he's telling them to let the let the people of the gospel judge in their time if they don't have an accurate peeps copy of the gospel in their >> I tell you I told you it's not I told you that's your misunderstanding and I explained to you why it's your misunderstanding >> what am I misunderstanding what am I misunderstanding you're what you're misunderstanding which I've already repeat I'm going to repeat one more time >> so please pay attention this time because this is the maybe the fifth time I repeat this >> I said this is a chronological order the Quran is making a statement that we send the the Torah we said to the people judge with the Torah then we send Jesus and we send to the people for Jesus the people other side No, but yeah, I already I understand that. But wait, you I understand that part. You told me that. >> Yeah. You can't ask me a question when I'm answering you. >> No, no, wait. No, like this is what I'm asking you. It's in present tense. It's in the present tense. So, let the people of the gospel >> Yeah, you can do that in the Quran. You You can talk about things in the past tense about the future. Even Allah talks about the Quran of things that will happen in this is a a stylistic in the Arabic language. You don't understand the Arabic language, which is fine. In the Quran, Allah talks about things that will happen in the future in hellfire. And Allah say they said that doesn't mean it happened in the past. >> How are you understand how are we supposed to understand that? >> Perfect. >> How are you supposed to understand that? >> I'll teach you now. No worries. How do you supposed to you come to someone like me or you come to a person of knowledge? Uh a scholar. You go to a person of knowledge. Not me necessarily, but you go to a scholar person of knowledge like the Quran teaches you. Tells you ask the people of knowledge. If you do not know, ask the scholars if you do not know. Allah explicitly mentions that in the Quran. Go to the scholars. Allah tells us the scholars explain the Quran. So if you're asking you don't understand what do you do you go to the people of knowledge you come here and I then I give you some knowledge I educate you wait let me finish I give you some I know look I said let me finish I said let me finish you come and then >> you are saying something what do you mean you are literally saying something speaking so you go to the people of knowledge open of the Quran all the go to you go to go to I'm not making up anything new here all of them will tell you that we said to the people of the time of Jesus historical He talk about historical chronological order that the people at the time of Jesus should judge with it. So if you don't understand go to the people of knowledge we educate you and when you understand your misrepresentation of the scripture is wrong when we take your position because your position is not logically valid when we use the next verse and the verse after your position crumbles and falls apart. So here I answered you every way possible. >> How does it fall apart? This is the thing >> in every way in every way possible. I mean it's the same thing with every Christian we're going to do. They're going to come and ask a question then we're going to answer the question. Are you gonna repeat the question over and over again? I think you're gonna ask the question over and over again. I'm I mean like dealing with Christians sometimes guys is like it's saying finally. I'm sorry mod. I mean we got to be patient man giving dawa. It's the only thing we can do. We got to be patient. Some of these people we have to be patient with them. Like allahel says on the Quran that they're blinded. They are blinded. Deaf, dumb, and blind. They don't see. They don't hear. You can show them the thing a million time. You can explain it to them in 100 million different angles but if Allah doesn't want guidance for them they will not be guided. So we're not we don't try to convince anyone. It's more for the people to see. It's more for the people to learn. It's for more for the people to understand. So may Allah give us patience as we can be able to deal with these uh these