John Lamb Lash: The Mind Virus that Led Us Astray

so you see before the uh infection came in the the Mind virus which is what it is this infection of salvationist religion cultures all over the world you know the Native American Indians China Africa Aborigines they all knew that we were in the presence of some Divine Force and they called her by many names but basically it's like well it's the Earth Mother she's a Divine mother she gives us everything she gives us corn just animals Birds you know she she is our mother we are born from the earth mother and what the gnostics had and what those who follow this uh Revival today have is a profound and intimate knowledge of that goddess thicker foreign I had a fascinating talk with John lamblash about the Gnostic worldview John lamblash is arguably the heaviest Authority on the gnostics at least on the nag hamadi Library the gnostics were vehemently opposed to the abrahamic religions one might think that's not so relevant in our secular world but it is because our secular society has inherited more features than we think from abrahamic religions which is something we talk a lot about in this episode I've realized that there is a mainstream even in spirituality some of the things that John lash says are controversial and some of the Gnostic content as John interprets it is not entirely comfortable for me parts are outlandish even by the standards of this channel maybe it's because what he says subliminally deep within us deep down reminds us of something or not at any rate it's all incredibly fascinating by any stretch of that word and as always take what resonates and leave what doesn't John says it very well in this episode himself he says don't believe me if you care in your heart if you feel that you can have some role in correcting the insanity of this world then go and learn for yourself the only Authority is your own conscience the core of the Gnostic message is to remember what is natural to remember our deep connection with Gaia with nature and that we have all the faculties we need in our genome Only You and I can know the truth about ourselves truly I should also say that the reason why John wears dark glasses in this conversation is that his eyes have become very sensitive to light I hope you appreciate this episode [Music] welcome all this is Maya the shift I'm Anders and it's an honor and a pleasure to introduce you to John lamb lash legendary mythologist in the footsteps of Joseph Campbell Visionary teacher and author welcome to the show John um thank you it's a pleasure to be here you have written a number of books I don't know how many five six seven or something like that five published many others are published okay but is it fair to say that uh the book not in his images is the pivotal piece of work that you've done in a way I would describe my work in its totality as an arrow and not in His image is the head okay we'll add right but the arrowhead is just the part of the arrow that penetrates the target and then there is the entire Arrow and then there is the feathers and the vein which are what steer the arrow so I would say yeah it's the uh it's the Arrow Head of my work but my work is an arrow beautiful it's a foundation shaking book uh at least if you if you're mired in the judeo-christian tradition if you're deeply admired in that it's it's truly Foundation shaking I think it's Foundation shaking for most people who westerners who read it um broadly it reveals and explains what the gnostics can teach us about who we are and what we have forgotten about life which is wisdom that we arguably will need to survive going forward uh and we'll dive deeply into this hopefully uh obviously the the nasty let's begin with the term the gnostics it's a pretty generic term as far as I understand so who were they or perhaps are they well the first occurrence of the word Gnostic that skull is locate which is a Greek word nosticos meaning someone who knows you know which raises a big question uh well what do they know you know what's so special about it is in Plato in a philosophical context when Plato describes them and the passage seems to indicate that he used it to mean technicians of knowledge not just people who had a content of knowledge for instance they had a knowledge of a vast number of Affairs in life which they did as they taught the humanities they taught literature astronomy music they were the Great teachers of the pre-christian world but also there's a nuance and that Nuance is extremely important so agnostic by my definition which would be true to their legacy true to the way they saw themselves okay we have to talk about them as they saw themselves because they have been slandered and vilified and repressed for centuries so it's there's I talk about the straw man argument about the gnostics they have a bad name today but that's only because of the straw man argument so everyone who comes to my work will have to get past that straw man argument I try to take you past it to an actual accurate definition of what the gnostics were in their time and what you can be today if you choose to be a gnostic so basically it means someone who knows things and uh I would say I would expand that to mean first of all they know how they know you know we call that in uh modern terms epistemology so epistemology is a big name for the study of how we know what we know okay but to put it in uh layman's terms it simply means well you know how the mind works your mind is a tool it is designed to work in a certain manner and if you know how your mind works then you can use it to its highest capacity so I translate that uh into the expression uh noetics now noetics and noetic psychology is a recent science by definition of History but it's not recent at all they were the first noetic cognitive psychologists and so I try to recapture their legacy what they truly were and I try to bring it forward and upscale it and make it something that we can use today so that's why I call it applied noetics and I prefer to use that term because the term Gnostic has been very sullied and uh it has a really bad reputation that it doesn't deserve actually yeah well maybe it has gotten better lately because many people who are into the spiritual uh community and and the new age and all that they have started to talk about the gnostics in a very positive way haven't they I mean compared to 50 60 70 years ago I don't know no the only people who talk about the gnostics in a positive way as far as I know are those who have read my book and follow my interpretation if you want to call that I have a an interpretation of the gnostics that stands apart from all the other talk about them as far as new age spirituality and things of that sort well I don't know it's been 15 16 years since not in His image came out and I don't find that people who declare themselves spiritual it's a word I don't use by the way or who declare themselves a new age are really uh finding the true message of gnosticism uh uh I've they're lost in the sauce most of them to know that yeah I I can't understand that expression um so let's talk about their legacy and their their wisdom and and what you what you um tell about it in your book and how you how you know what you know how you've come across what you know because there was a pivotal event as you say they have been they had been repressed for for centuries and centuries and and slaughtered on a mass scale by by the Catholic Church uh and and others also perhaps um they were mainly active in the in the region of of uh the Levant and the Mediterranean and as far as I understand you you can correct me on that one but there was a pivotal event back in December of 1945 when when these uh there was a discovery in a village called nagamadi in Egypt uh can you tell tell us about that and and what that has entailed during first week of December in 1945 an Arab peasant was hunting around in caves for something like back guano or fertilizer it's a very arid region and he found these jars played jars and in them were these books called The nagka Mighty codexes so codex codices for codex just means book but the reason why they're called books is very significant because they are the earliest surviving uh example of actually bound books they are leather-bound books like we have today previously there were only Papyrus leaves you know pepper Scrolls so they are the oldest example and they date the books themselves as physical artifacts date to about 325 uh piggy okay but the material that they contain that's another question where does it come from uh what were the original versions it appears that most of the material in the mighty courtesies is is just like um stenographic copies of other materials so what were the original materials you know and uh so there's a lot of questions about the origins of that material but that came forth and it wasn't until uh sometime later that a scholar named Jean duress uh found him or he was shown them in Cairo in a library and he said you know holy moly do you realize what this is this is the only surviving documents we have that we can actually uh attribute to this mysterious group of people called the gnostics it was a huge breakthrough they're not the only ones there are some commodity texts that are important too but it's the main body upon which I have reconstructed the message of narcissism yeah and it's it's huge and but but it's actually the the material isn't that huge it's 52 books or something isn't it or and and I mean the body of text is not it's not as big as for instance your book that you've written 52 texts some very fragmentary some very short some quite long all very confusing it's a huge model it's only about 30 of them that are worth consideration and on my website nemata there's a course called gnosis today in which I've written commentaries on those 30 that I consider to be of importance but it's a huge job of reconstruction that I went through to uh pull them together I have to use these things here you see this yeah the Coptic Gnostic Library this is actually the scholarly Edition so you can see that it has Coptic and English so it was published in English in 1976 it's called the nakamati library in English and it's just it's gibberish it's really almost impossible to make any sense out of it so you really have to go and dig into the source materials which is what I did so one of my objectives uh and not in this image basically the first quarter of the book is dedicated to the problem uh the problem we're facing still today and it traces back that problem uh all the way to about two thousand BC and it is the problem and I don't know if anyone will be surprised by me saying this but what I found that the basic core problem that uh underlies all the other problems in our world today is uh an ideology of Master race Supremacy of course it's common knowledge that this concept of Master race uh was connected with the German people in the 20th century wrong it goes way back before that and as a matter of fact the ideology of that movement in the 20th century is not at all similar to the master race ideology which I have exposed in not in His image not at all similar so this is a dangerous subject it goes very deep into the wounding of civilization and the wounding of a very sense of humanity so in the first quarter of the book I describe the problem I go to the root of evil which is not a cosmic Force there's no Cosmic evil there's no battle between Cosmic good and Cosmic evil in my opinion I find no evidence of that but the battle between good and evil is right here it's in the human heart and in our minds you see so I exposed the problem and I think I've done that in a way that no one else has done uh I can't tell you how many people have written me and said wow your book was the single thing that I ever found that completely blew me out of my religious indoctrination you know so I talk about religious ideology I talk about the savior the male Creator God who is off the planet the Savior the Messiah and the apocalypse the last judgment and I explained that the gnostics saw all of that as insanity I would really call it religious insanity and by the way I want to point out we may get back to this that this program which is called the program of zadik z-a-d-d-i-k that is the operative term zetic means ultra-righteous if I am zadek if I entitle myself as that it means I am Ultra righteous I am holier than you and I have the authority to tell you how you must live right that is the zotic that is the core of this sounds familiar if you know something about traditional religion well all the abrahamic religions are based on that yeah so yeah that's that's talk about that in the study of deep human history I think it's sad that conventional Scholars often don't take take text ancient texts uh seriously but you do and you do it to a t i mean you have not you not just try to explain what actually what happened to humanity long time ago but but you explain the source of human suffering as you are talking about here and you expose the what I interpret as the huge misunderstanding of human life that is embedded in the Abraham abrahamic religions the I mean Judaism Christianity and Islam so what is it that we have misunderstood or misconstrued for Millennia without realizing it impulse you can call it this is attic Factor uh which emerged over many centuries it goes back to about 1800 it goes back to an incident it's actually described in the Bible you know in the uh Genesis so there's a story in there about the meeting between Abraham who is the founder of all the abrahamic religions including Islam because he had a son with his consort Hagar And that son Ishmael is the progenitor of the Arabic peoples right whereas Isaac is the progenitor of the Jewish people so Jews and Arabs are really just the same race really they're cousins you know but in that scene uh he meets Melchizedek and Melchizedek is as it were the iconic figure that represents how this alien and insane ideology came into our world right so I explain all that as you say in meticulous detail uh which other Scholars don't they they for some reason they don't well they're judeo-christian Scholars so they have a vested interest in preserving their belief system but I don't because I'm a heretic and I'm out to completely destroy their belief system and to liberate people from it to the best of my ability so yeah there are several components of the zotic factor one is that there is a soul Supreme Creator God who is male and he is external to the world I call him the off Planet father God then there is the Messiah or the Savior who is in a way sent by the father God then there is uh the the trial and the Judgment of humanity do you or do you not obey the laws of the ultra righteous who tell you how to live right by the way I want to add in case we skip over it that the ultra-righteous today Among Us are in the field of technocracy for instance if you see this guy called Harari get his full name Harari he's in Israeli yeah yeah historian historian he wrote this book called homo Deus yeah yeah I read that one all right when you see Harari who's like one and we could name maybe 10 people who are at the top of the Pyramid of of technocracy right the technocratic elite right that is this addict today the transhumanism is the result of zadek today and uh of course those people stand up there like experts and they think that they're going to tell you not only how you can live but how you must live yeah I was thinking of coming back to that actually that kind of question if we have time so yeah but we'll come back to that later yeah so anyway I just wanted to point out that there's a long mark and it comes down to today I'm not talking about ancient history here yeah I'm not talking about Reviving a dead religion I'm talking about the Urgent and imperative need to face evil and transhumanism is evil no matter how you play it no matter how you spin it so what happened was and the gnostics detected all this is that when this religious ideology came over many centuries developed first in Judaism then it com then it came into Christianity right it uh the goal of it is actually to destroy our inherent sense of what it is to be human that's why the wef that's why Schwab can say we are going to change what it means to be human you've heard that you actually know you believe it's a conspiracy you think it's a conspiracy theory but he actually says those things yeah of course he does yeah I'm not a conspiracy theorist I'm a conspiracy analyst yeah okay it's good yeah so he says that and then Harari standing there talking about the future of AI and how Ai and chat GPT and everything the world is going to change and you're going to have to go along with it whether you like it or not and Harare uses the word we like as if he's speaking for Humanity but he's not he's only speaking for his in-group which is this movement and so I track that movement that's all about the problem and I track that in the first quarter of the book I talk about who Saint Paul was and the Melchizedek connection I don't think anyone else describes the Melchizedek connection quite the same way that I do but then in the other three quarters of the book I talk about the solution so yeah it's important to understand uh who hated the gnostics and who tried to wipe them out destroyed the libraries of antiquity destroyed the sacred writings of their schools and their networks it's important to know that but it's much more important to know that they had a message for Humanity that is a solution to those problems and so I the greater part of the book is about the mistrace because the Mysteries were of the schools run by gnostics in which they taught you know let's go to your three questions what are the three questions that you that you short questions that you have in your uh email you sent to me like uh who are we um where do we come from where are we going okay and there's a third one I think what is our purpose of being here the answer to those questions is in my book and you might say well John you know so I'll ask John last who are you you know you just have another answer uh is it any better than the other answers that we get from science religion or philosophy or the New Age well I can't tell you it's better you have to find that out for yourself it's certainly better for me and for the people in my life who have found this Gnostic message and uh also I would say that uh as a gnostic as a representative of the gnostics today the way I can answer those three questions may not be better but it certainly is different it's completely different from any answer that you will get from science religion philosophy or the New Age well new age is a very generic term to be sure it contains all kinds of things uh and what the gnostics pointed out when Christianity arose and and Judaism was already there was that this Redeemer compassed this this idea that that there is a redeem there's Redemption to come if you only follow the rules and separation between God and and humans that as you say the God is off an off-planet thing it's an entity that is not here but we have to obey it and and if we we follow the rules we will come to the right place when we die otherwise we go to the other place or I mean all those kinds of ideas that are dangerous uh they pointed out that that this is this is wrong and this is dangerous and they were hated for it and they were they were persecuted for it of course um well of course the most they were Heretics and I'm inherited you know the word heretic simply comes from a Greek verb uh which means to choose so if you're a hair trick it means you choose what you believe it means you don't grow up just accepting what your parents or your culture taught you to believe you choose it by your free will right sounds like the way to go we should all be Heretics Heritage heresy is coming back I think uh so yeah one of the primary the the heart of the whole Gnostic message is uh you can hear it on a four minute 30 second uh video on YouTube if you go to sophianic myth dot org on YouTube or sopianic myth uh there's an introduction to the Fallen goddess scenario so the Fallen goddess scenario is what I restore in the remaining three-quarter of the books it's a great narrative that answers the three questions you say and the first thing that the following scenario teaches you is that well religion might have told you that there is some that there's God where you get your idea of God from who who told you who God is who told you who humanity is you know everyone listening to me now can admit in full humility that you didn't invent those ideas yourself you got them from somewhere well you can get from the Gnostic teachings a different answer to what God is or goddess you see so what they said was no no it's wrong it's uh what you call God is really a a a pretender God It's A demented alien I mean this is the most outrageous uh statement that has ever been made in the history of religion and it's largely for saying that that they were hunted down and driven into Exile yeah your god what you think is God the heavenly father is actually a demented alien who pretends to be God only pretends to be like Klaus Schwab he's a demented alien who pretends to be what the overlord of the world right it's the same thing and they said okay we're not only going to tell you that that God that you feel so devoted to when you want to follow his rules uh is not the true God well I will tell you who is right this is who he is yes what that is uh no not really tell me it's called a corn dolly that is in people in when they gathered corn or wheat in the field they made it into a stack and they tied it right and then they came and they gathered the stack and those stacks of wheat or corn are called dollies and so this is I think from the Zuni Indians of uh New Mexico and so they made a fetish of the corn dolly right this is a beautiful fetish you see the base of it and everything see that it's carved in some kind of white stone I'm not sure what it is and this represents the white goddess this is a fetish of the white goddess who is recognized by many many people so you see before the uh infection came in the the Mind virus which is what it is this infection of salvationist religion cultures all over the world you know the Native American Indians China Africa Aborigines they all knew that we were in the presence of some Divine Force and they called her by many names but basically it's like well it's the Earth Mother she's a Divine mother she gives us everything it gives us corn just animals Birds you know she she is our mother we are born from the earth mother and what the gnostics had and what those who follow this uh Revival today have is a profound and intimate knowledge of that goddess thicker that she is present the off Planet father God is not present is invisible you can't see him you can't touch him you can't taste him you can't smell him but you can see touch taste and smell that goddess because it is the Living Earth so the whole core of the Gnostic message is to bring Humanity back to the presence of this goddess figure who is called Sophia meaning wisdom that's the whole point of everything that I do yeah it's beautiful and in in this Gnostic myth of Life the goddess of wisdom as you say Sophia or Sophia dreams are Humanities as far as I understand in a way dreams of humanity emanates from the galactic core and becomes Earth but in the process there's a side species with negative influence on humans that is created as well which are called the arkans so how should we understand this the The Ark in influence is it is it should it be understood as something concrete or is it more metaphorical like for instance our shadow in the psyche uh like the the left brain having hijacked the right brain as you know Ian McGill Chris talks about in in a book for instance or how should this be understood well it's a big question and I know people who struggle with this factor of the archons but I would advise first before I give you my latest uh pitch on the archons right uh I would just advise this uh I introduced the word icon myself into discourse on the internet in 2002 20 years ago uh and since that time I have always used it rigorously in the framework of this narrative which is the biography of the wisdom goddess where she originated how she created Humanity she is the designer of the human species and so forth and I have always spoke about the archons in that framework in the framework of that story because if you go outside the framework of that story if you don't have it as a guiding paradigm then there's a tendency to speculate about all kinds of things about the archons which to my mind is a waste of time so uh I would say this no it's not about projection or your Shadow by the way I entirely reject the jungian concept of projection and the shadow entirely uh it is not about right brain left brain it is about an actual paranormal influence Upon Our World a paranormal influence that comes from outside of the atmosphere and the archons uh are a species like a cyborg insect type species that were generated by accident so the the why are they even here in this why do they impinge upon this world they're not here in this world because they can't live in the biosphere they cannot they cannot live in the biosphere because oxygen is toxic to them so but they can try to break in so a big part of the story the Fallen goddess scenario is okay how did the archons appear in the first place and why are they messing with us and how do they get into our minds it's a mind virus I'm not talking about the invasion of Little Green Man or reptilians crawling out of holes in the Earth that's fantasy material I'm talking about something more serious than that which is uh a virus in the mind a mind virus that is carried and then how and then it raises the question well how did Humanity get infected with this mind virus you know so the answer to all of those questions would be far too much for us to talk about here at legs okay but you only find the answer by going to the narrative with a desire to learn you have to learn this I can't just spoon feed it to you you there has to be a very strong will to learn and where does that will to learn come from it comes from the love for that goddess figure the love for the Earth and also the love for her species because she was a designer she designed the human genome and I talk a lot about that human genome which the gnostics call the anthropos so the whole story of how we got here the answer to your three questions uh is in the Gnostic material as I've brought it forth today some of it I found in the original material after raking through it hundreds of times and some of it I've I've elaborated and developed to bring it up to our time so that it you know it meets our needs today so when do I encounter Arcon influence in my daily life or in your daily life and everybody's daily life when I feel worried when I feel afraid when I'm scared that something bad is going to happen when I want to protect myself is that is that kind of the the Mind influence that you're talking about no when I use the word paranormal I realized it's a very big term and it doesn't really say much with anything you know it's what we call an umbrella term but let me see if I can clarify it in this way there is a category of diverse uh paranormal events that can occur like a lucid dream is a paranormal event uh you know various psychic phenomena okay there's a wide range of diverse psychic phenomena that Human animals typically experience that I think everybody's had them uh and they are not our contact they are simply phenomena that arise in human emotion and Imagination because we don't know how to operate our own operating system correctly you see you could say that if you put someone in a car who doesn't know how to drive they don't know how to control the wheel the brakes the accelerator the clutch and so they start driving in the car and the car starts shaking or it goes off the road or it stalls that's what psychic phenomena are they are simply malfunctions of the natural operations of the human psyche however there is one exception there is one type of paranormal event that is our contact and that can be traced back to the archons okay so if that is correct what I'm saying okay then it raises it begs the question well how do we detect it how do we know that that specifically is our Conte I'll give it a quickest rundown that I can be our contact intrusion upon Humanity in the biosphere has morphed over the ages okay it has changed the first form of our chronic intrusion which still persists today is in salvationist religion they intruded by infecting the human mind with a alien ideology so if you ask me well where do you uh encounter the archons today going to a church there you'll find their influence when you see that tortured man on the cross that is in our contact imprint in your mind where you see the hierarchy and the pomp of the Catholic Church that's our contact same thing with Buddhist by the way Dalai Lama and all the Rope that's all very iconic so wherever you see a religious or spiritual ideology that is directed by some higher authority than you you're looking the accountant intrusion right in the face so it's more like ideas that have been uh introduced into our minds what's a mind virus and what do you have in your mind ideas so you have some ideas in your mind that are healthy like you have some chemicals in your body that are healthy and you have some things that are in your body that are unhealthy if you eat badly or you get an infection it's an infection in the mind and it operated first through religious ideology okay but then over centuries it mutated it's a mutating virus and if we want to look at the way that you encounter the archons today the iconic influence I said it before you mentioned two names there yeah yeah it Advanced humanism all this insane hype and and fear-mongering Scare Tactics oh AI oh AI you know they are cardiac influences ai ai is our contact intelligence AI is alien intelligence it is not artificial intelligence because there is no such thing as artificial intelligence because intelligence is alive true intelligence is a lie and AI is not alive it will never be alive it will never have agents say it will never achieve singularity and it will never take over your life unless you surrender to it so the front line of the iconic attack right now in this attempt to uh convince people by fear and threats right oh it's coming AI it's the end of humanity this is the iconic Force coming right at you it's not something mysterious and and so you might ask well John how can you say that that is paranormal isn't that just an expression of Science and the human mind you know hasn't hasn't Science and Technology just evolve to this point you know how can you say there's something paranormal in it something alien the answer to that is that if you use your common sense and you look at it without fear you can see that it is insane it's insane and the insanity is not is something Beyond human there's a point that I make very often and I'm not very sure that I get this point across the people it may be more one of the more difficult points I make you know are you concerned about evil and evil in the world do you think there's real evil in the world people with evil intention you think there are people who want to harm others and cause them suffering and deprive them of the freedom to live and all that okay so you care about the problem right they want to understand how can certain people be so evil right maybe you've asked that question I guarantee you that you cannot see to the ultimate source of evil human evil unless you see there is a non-human factor in it and this is a test for everyone this is a test for yours your uh your property you know your ability to to investigate something but I assure you that is one of the greatest lessons that I have drawn uh and if we did not have this our content presence in this world by the way it's dying out it's in its dying face I could talk a lot about that yeah let's come back to that yeah yeah uh if we did not have it in what I call the Divine experiment okay so I call life on Earth in the biosphere with the human species plants trees ocean water insect snakes it's a great experiment it's a biological Laboratory created by Divine beings with love and a sense of mischief and adventure right they don't know the outcome of this experiment they just put us in it they gave us certain abilities and capacities and they said okay now let's watch this species and let's watch how they all interact with you know it's a wonderful thrilling adventure if we did not have the archaic intrusion then there would be Wars there would be conflicts there would be some measure of Cruelty there would be some measure of uh inflicted suffering that is to say intentional suffering inflicted upon others right there would be those those phenomena would happen in human behavior but there would be nothing on the scale of what we see today it's the scale of it that tells you that it is that there's something non-human in it say and this is not easy to grasp I'm explaining it for the hundredth time the best I can it's just something that you can't be told about it I'm telling you but you're not going to get it just for me telling you oh you have to feel you have to kind of sense that it is as you say insane and it doesn't make sense even when you when you sit with it for a while yeah it's insane and inhumane um that's that's the term that we use even for I mean for the wars and the atrocities that are going on we use the word yeah but war in itself the conflict between different races or ethnic groups is not insane it's not it's always happened because there are two components in this experiment one is cooperation or Mutual Aid and the other is competition and it's natural people who think people who dream people who want to say oh if we could only live in a world where there's no conflict are very naive but the way the conflict develops it can develop in human terms or it can develop into an inhumane scale of insanity which is what those wars were about well sure I mean there are many tears layers of of conflict it doesn't have to go to as far as war of course I mean you can have conflicts without having Wars yeah that's right and you can have Tribal wars and there have always been Tribal wars you know always been territorial Wars it's in the nature of the experiment well an argument anywhere at a workplace is is a kind of a conflict yeah marriage is a conflict so was it just to to see here what what has happened and and why according to the Gnostic story here the Gnostic wisdom if you will was the emergence of the this um uh salvationist religion thing this Redeemer complex was that the human mistake or is it Salient to you and to to us who read your book because it's close to our current culture and it's also near a written history or I mean because I mean Humanity has been around for um I mean hundreds of thousands of years probably maybe Millions so this is pretty close in history was it was it really the mistake or was there was this bad influence there already earlier or I mean not there let you answer this question no it's not there I explained how it got here you know there's a great saying from one of the Gnostic uh books that says uh whoever does not know the origin of evil is no stranger to it now as a very high standard of knowledge what is that saying to you people listening to me now whoever you may be whatever what age it says that if you cannot know and see with certainty what the origin of evil behavior is then you may be accessory to it without knowing that you are you may go along with that I mean how many good people who would never harm anyone go along with Christianity they don't have to what do they think that they have to believe in a in a child sacrifice which by the way is the basis of judeo-christianity as I say in my book child sacrifice Abraham's sacrifices his son the father God sacrifices his son who is the most perfect and innocent child that ever lived what are you looking at there you won't go along with that that's the one blind spot even for atheists and church haters yeah yeah so this is deep stuff but it all comes down to uh how the Gnostic message hits you you know how is what I'm saying now to listening how's it hitting you where is it hitting you it has to hit you right here in the conscience of your heart and it has to hit you here because it takes common sense and lucidity to work these things out that is the challenge and that's how we get out of this uh current situation and we defeat the archantic transhumanist agenda that is the great test why do they wait for hundreds of thousands of years before they intruded into the human mind very good question first of all there are a lot of fail-safes in this experiment uh the human genome when it was uh designed in the galactic core then the Fallen goddess scenario explains that it was sealed it was uh sealed for protection and I described exactly how the ceiling occurs it's done with what's called exclusion water this is the fourth state of water yeah it's like more gel kind of like it's like a gel it's it's it's uh encapsulated in its gel this is the human genome and so there is a lot of China going around about coming from Zechariah sitchin and other disinformation agents that the archons are Anunnaki or some alien civilization into the human genome no they did not they cannot hack into the human genome it's impossible and the Atmos so there are two things that protect us one is the genome is protected your genome in your body and the other is that the biosphere of the earth repels them cannot live in in their physical form which is like uh insect Locust like creature they exist in the outer solar system the myth says that the archons do not exist in the universe at Large they do not come from an advanced civilization they exist uniquely in our solar system as an abnormal species that the goddess herself produced by accident this is very big stuff for people to swallow I know if you never heard about it before it's it's really it sounds crazy but uh yeah it is very coherent believe me and the more you look at it the more sense it makes so no they can't penetrate into the atmosphere but what they do is they use shortwave frequency Transmissions and the nature of the archon beings the outcome entities is that they are a mimetic species so they cannot do anything except replicate or imitate so they observe the Earth from the the surrounding solar system okay from the other planetary bodies particularly Saturn for many many thousands of years and the gnostics say that they became envious they use this word they were envious they they were able to observe our experiment how did they do it they did it by shortwave scanning they didn't actually do it because they have eyes like us to see because they are not organic they do not have eyes okay they have sensors behind those big bulging eyes right they have sensors and so they track and scan for a long time and they uh wanted to pee like us this is what the story says you know and then they realize well we can't be like them because they're Superior costs and we were just an accident we're we're a cosmic accident they are the result of a Divine imagination of the Aeons in the cosmic Center you know and they are higher than us and they think they're more intelligent than us it says this in the in these books you know it says I quote Yeah the archons realize that the anthropos was more intelligent more beautiful it's free it can play and so they make their Envy turned bad and they said well if we can't be like them maybe we can get them to be like us maybe we can turn them into mindless Zone drones and zombies and so they tried and they tried there was like a uh a barrage of this shortwave frequency blasting into the atmosphere for many many Millennia before they finally broke through in order to break into the experiment they had to go through a particular vector and they neurologically infected that vector and then that Vector spread their virus let's say That's How The Story Goes it's an enormous story you know it doesn't matter I mean people people can draw their conclusions themselves or absolutely I mean and take you believe what you're saying or or think that you're you're talking baloney I mean it's it's it's a free world don't don't believe me yeah don't believe me if you really care in your heart if you really feel that you can have some role as a sovereign individual in correcting the perverted Insanity of this world then go and learn how to do it and everything I talk about is provable and people who follow my work I don't know what their numbers are but every one of them who follows this updated gnosticism will tell you yeah we can prove it we live it we are part of the solution we are part of what is called in this text Sophia's correction the correction of the insane Behavior of humanity is happening and gnostics today dedicate themselves to that correction which is a great theme uh in the thing and there's even a chapter I think yeah there's a chapter that's called so fires correction there is in your book so the Gnostic message is is a unique message it's not it's not a version of ancient truth that's been conveyed for tens of thousands of years I mean the Hermetic text The Vedic text the Siberian text the Mayan texts it's something different is it yeah it's the only to my knowledge the only complete and coherent explanation of your three questions how did we originate uh what are we doing here you know and where do we go from here you can go to uh you know a thousand scientists you can go to a thousand religious leaders you can go to a thousand philosophers and ask them those questions right and they will all give you answers and maybe you'll like those answers better than mine but I can only assure you of one thing that the answer that I'm telling you is completely different yeah we'll give you as far as I see can understand now the difference is maybe that that the Gnostic texts are talking about specifically humankind and humanity and how everything went awry for Humanity and what happened and how Humanity was created and all that and and also the Earth of course because we're an integral part of Earth and Earth is Sophia but other other spiritual texts or I mean you don't use the word spiritual but other ancient taxation wisdom texts they speak perhaps more about how the universe works what what's uh what what is beneath the physical reality and all that like like the Hermetic principles or hermetic texts talk about that they don't talk specifically about humanity and how Humanity came came about but is this a correct uh interpretation of the difference between the Gnostic texts and and the others well you'll find in my book here in the footnotes and you also find extensively in my other writings in my school nemata that I have drawn over well let's say we calculate how old I am I hope I don't fall into a coma you think okay let's say 55 years at least you know I've studied uh Vedic philosophies and I've studied all of the philosophical systems in the world and tried to practice them try to see how to apply them to life then you'll see in my work that there are certain overlaps the main overlap that I make is between the Gnostic message and what is called Hindu Tantra of Vidya Hindu Tantra not Buddhist Tantra although I do rip off a lot from Buddhist contract too I'm kind of like a thief I go in and steal things from these other systems you know if they were I steal parts of their cars you know to build my model car right uh but uh I draw very deeply on uh this uh Hindu Tantra and there's a great saying uh which is from the bisbasara Tantra and it says what is here is there what is not here is nowhere now I remember that from the book and so I hold by that you want to know about other dimensions and you know where all the cosmic structure and everything and what's all behind this and well I teach about that too it's called the parinama or the mechanism of cosmic projection but one of the requirements I made upon those who are interested in learning about that is that look I can tell you about the dimensional structure of the universe that there are ten Dimensions I can tell you about how they are structured and how they come from a source the origin of everything which I call the presence right and yeah I want you to always know that everything that you can find in the cosmos you can find right here in your senses so would you say it's a holographic Universe use the word holograph because it's not a holograph it's a materially real projection to Sophia it's like a dream the Earth is like to her like your body is to you in a dream so here you are now sitting here we're together in these rooms and you're not dreaming you're awake and there's your body there's my body but in a dream I have a dream body so the Earth is her dream body and you are in Her Dream your character in her dream the events in your life are are she's dreaming them this is one of the great messages and this is not a metaphysical Theory my friends no way this is something that you can know and experience improve and verify that's what the practice of planetary contract is it's the upscaling of the Gnostic uh method so so it's huge what we're talking about is huge but I always want to bring it back to uh your you know whoever's listening I mean how much do you actually care how much do you care about really knowing or do you just want to go along with something that someone tells you whether it be the Dalai Lama or uh Eckhart Tolle or uh Elon Musk do you really want to know in the depths of your own heart and mind these things you can know that but only through the path of gnosis because it means knowledge same I know I sound like a megalomaniac I'm very comfortable and guilty as charged but you also say that you shouldn't follow anyone I mean which means that we shouldn't follow you either I mean we should only listen to our hearts and go go Inward and and no don't follow me but I'm a teacher I'm a teacher yeah yeah so if you uh if I was a scuba diver teacher and you came on a a class with me and I taught you how to do scuba diving you know very important things because you could die if you made the wrong mistake so I teach you about the ocean the tides you know but oxygen about nitrogen uh sickness you know the bends and then you don't and then you don't follow me scuba diving all through the ocean you're going scuba dive by yourself right it's the same thing it's just that the teaching that I offer is unique and Paramount and I uh know that I come across as really self-important and unique but it doesn't bother me because what if it's true what differences they make if I'm arrogant self-important person as long as what I'm saying is true and it can actually benefit you see that's so I don't care how I look honestly and you build I mean you build on the on the Gnostic wisdom so I mean and you've studied that for for decades so you have something to go on there but I'm No Authority you know the only Authority is your is your own conscience and your ability to know but really know not believe not make believe not pretend no um yeah in order for there to be knowledge there has to be proof so it's all about proving it yeah you said before that this uh this uh mind virus is a mutating virus the archotic virus and it makes sense when you think about it because many say that for instance Enlightenment was an Awakening from the Dark Age of the oppression from the church but maybe it just was a trick then because some I mean I've suspected for a long time that there is total collusion between the secular and the religious powers that be and you are saying that this is exactly the case that was just a mutation mutation of the virus from religion to the belief in science well that's what happened to science science as it genuinely awoke science is simply in a true and same sense it's simply the exercise of human reasoning yeah of course I mean yeah no no but nobody can can reject the value of science that would be totally insane of course it was a good thing that the enlightenment occurred in the 17th century and that people like Voltaire and others you know violently rejected religion and the clergy and that and the enlightenment that's the name of that period uh was a time when people started to come back to their senses and then in the 18th century there were tremendous advances in science and and it was called originally in its pure form which largely came from the Germans was called not your philosophy and natural philosophy if we had it today we would be living in something like a more utopian World a much better World in our symbiosis with nature but that science also Got Hijacked and perverted eventually you say so today when you have Einstein complete crap you know Einstein quantum physics uh Atomic physics uh relativity Theory uh string this is all garbage this is not science this is not science at all this is an example of how science was taken away from reason taken out of the realm of the senses and spun into a mind game which goes nowhere nothing has ever been done through the knowledge of quantum mechanics or relatively Theory nothing has ever been invented based on those scientific theories that is of any use whatsoever you see so we have seen uh for the last 250 years the iconic perversion of science as well it's a parasitical virus my friend you get that it's parasite and Like A Parasite it spreads into culture we have it in culture now you know we have it in the t-r-a-n-s movements you have the iconic virus one thing that the archons hate is the gender binary I hate it every species has a niche on this planet at least with we think that and I think you you write that in in your book as well yeah the the question then it begs the question what's what's the niche of the human species isn't I mean I have a hard time realizing I mean finding it finding a particular Niche for for the human race because it seems as we are unique in that way we are different from from the other animals if we are even to be called an animal uh because there's no Niche there's no specific place for I mean what would that be we have cousins in the among the primates they have niches they haven't changed in 12 million years but I mean what's our niche it's culture culture okay yeah you can you can you you can't say that giraffes don't have culture you know or elephants have culture right elephants have funerals you know they bury dead elephants they weep you know uh ants have culture monarch butterflies you know snakes but Sofia and Celeste that's the correct name for your Divine parents uh design the human genome in an amazing way and I've talked about it at length so this this Human Genome which is the double helix DNA is actually encoded with seven specific talents seven talents and they designed it so that when the human genome when the seed the capsule dropped into a planetary atmosphere like the Earth and developed into our species that we would have all these skills and talents and that allows us to create culture to a degree that far exceeds any other animals but it's not necessarily Superior it's I say we are an exceptional animal I say we are animals and I will fight to the teeth anyone who who disagrees with me but we are an exceptional animal because we have been endowed by our aeonic parents with these talents and so we create culture now it is true that we are also a high Predator we're the highest predator on the planet so we prey on all other species and even on our own right and also uh we can adapt we can live in many different environments you know like otters or you know there's a Swedish moose there was an albino moose that appeared in Sweden that's a big story sometimes here in Sweden has been yeah it it arrived there the day that I did by the way and my totem animal is the Moose because the Moose is the animal of uh the state of Maine but anyway it has its environment it's not going to live in the Sahara it's not going to live in Mexico right but we can live anywhere we're adaptive and we create culture we are a unique animal in that our Niche is not entirely determined by the environmental setting but we ourselves created that's what culture is and that's what makes us really interesting to the Divine observers you know looking in on the experiment they say wow look at look at how they create culture they make pots dishes they make clothes they make weapons how do they build these enormous megalithic sites down the hell did they ever do that right how did they move those stones look at the move those stones and fit them together you know look at they they create writing they create alphabets you know this is wondrous it's wondrous that we do this and were we able to straighten out our Act and correct things correct the interference uh we could do it to the end of Glory yeah let's talk about where we're heading then the Advent of artificial intelligence or archantic intelligence as you prefer to call it I guess absolutely yeah will this lead to the ultimate or contact human or even Extinction and if not where are we headed are there any promising signs in this Age of Aquarius or wherever we are in the in the in time yeah we're a long way from the age of Aquarius but uh that's another subject we're in a piscient age yeah but shouldn't it have switched over to to the uh the Aquarian age about by now or no if you follow the cosmic claw the ages are defined by the movement of the Spring Equinox in the constellations that's the astronomical basis of the ages you can't argue about it it's just how they are calculated 2 120 2000 to 160 years since the last uh it's not an average because the constellations are of different lengths so the piscient age began in 120. but the constellations aren't aren't really the thing that is having any influence it's more the the sector of the no of the whole has no influence at all you got it backwards okay the constellations are real yeah I know they're real but I mean the inspectors are not real they're they're like uh sections on a ruler points points in space-time yeah their points on the ecliptic plane of the earth oh okay never mind let's talk about where we're heading are you seeing any promising signs here in this in this day and age yeah sure uh I am certain that we stand now we I don't like to use this but those uh bulk do you say that word in in Swedish Volk I woke not the woe the vault p-o-l-k d-u-l-k no v-o-l-k the folk aha no we used we used the letter f for that in Swedish but it's in German it's v-o-l-k yeah so say it in Swedish okay the fork yeah I'm talking about them right Who Have Heart who have determination are facing today a great opportunity unique in all of the life of our species and that is the opportunity to set a boundary okay now I have said in a recent talk I can't remember did I say I can't remember what I'm talking about most of the time so uh I think I said somewhere yeah it was with Lucas on age of Truth I said do you know what a test is do you know what a test is not really okay it's one word right s-h-i-t-t-e-s-t right so it goes like this suppose I meet you just in a cafe and we start to strike it off and sort of have a conversation right but I really don't know if I want to continue this conversation with you because I'm not quite sure you know if you're intelligent enough or maybe if you have enough money and so I ask you outrageous questions which I don't which are not really sincere but I just ask it to get your reaction right you know for instance if I said to you we're sitting in a cafe and I said to you hey uh you know uh what do you think of the price range of of Ukrainian hookers you know that would be an outrageous question I guess yeah yeah you think a thousand a night is too much you know I could ask you that question obviously I don't mean that do I I'm just asking it to get a reaction from you see that's what's called a test okay the whole uh hype that you're now hearing about AI end of humanity hundreds of YouTube videos every day it's gonna destroy Humanity it's going to change everything that's a task it's simply there to test you to see how vulnerable you are and how weak you are now there's a anecdote that comes this will illustrate what I think is the great opportunity of this time I'll make it as quick as I can there's an anecdote that comes from Plato and it comes from that dialogue called the phaedrus at the end of the phaedrus and Socrates relates this anecdote and it's called Uh uh the anecdote of Thomas t-h-a-m-u-s so there's this Egyptian king called Samus probably thought Moses probably and Thoth comes to him Toth the god taught God of writing and thought comes to me he's very excited and he says oh King Thomas you won't believe what I've done he said I've created this tool This Magnificent tool of Technology which is called writing and look you can write it down in these letters you know like the letters that are in the code of this computer right here you can write it all down and uh it and it's going to just change everything and it's going to be such a boon and a benefit to humanity and uh you have to read this by the way in the original it's only like two paragraphs long and King Thomas says oh no no no he says what you have created is not an aid to memory but it will destroy memory this technology that you present as helping human beings with their faculties will actually destroy their faculties so this is a warning and then comes the really great part which is I think the primary lesson of our time today King Thomas says though I'm paraphrase those who invent and implement and produce this technology are incapable of judging its usefulness now take that message to heart that comes from Plato from probably a kind of initiated viewpoint so I tell you today this is your opportunity to make a difference those who are hyping AI the transhumanists the code writers the technocrats Elon Musk and all of them those who are threatening you they're threatening you with it or they're saying oh no it's the best thing that ever happened they are the least capable of judging how to use it correctly but who is you are and this is what you have to do you have to draw a line a boundary and this test it is a test this test has never faced Humanity before and it's a really good thing they were facing this test today because every single sovereign individual who cares can say no I don't accept it I will not allow it I will not have it forced upon me and I will find a way to live my life as free as possible from artificial technology doesn't mean I'll reject it entirely you know but I will put it within strict boundaries like look at what we're doing here right now so we're using AI am I a hypocrite because I'm advising people not at all it's just a telephone man it's a telephone with a screen years ago we would have conducted this uh interview on the telephone no so yeah I use it to teach I use it for my school and then I draw a boundary to not live on social media do not have an iPhone do not take my own picture a thousand times a day do not rely on chat GPT to to learn for me see if you go to chat GTP and you ask it a question then you you forego the learning process you don't go through the learning process you allow the a I bought to learn for you you're surrendering your own faculties this is what Thomas warned us about so we stand at a frontier was a tremendous opportunity to take a stand against transhumanism and technocracy that's what it's all about and claim back a natural way of living do not live in social media it's not a life the life in the virtual is not a life what you're seeing here this is not John lash a lot you're not seeing him alive you'd have to be here with me you could stand it to see me alive right yeah yeah I'd love to be in Spain and sit by a table together with you and well don't you know the difference I mean what is the difference virtual is the iconic medium they are masters of virtual reality virtual simulation do not go live in a virtual the choice to live in a virtual or the natural is the choice of sapphires correction that's it it's simple yeah it's it's I I like what you're saying it's beautiful but I think also maybe I mean technology is just you can't see it as just a tool on gutenberg's printing press was the same thing as the internet has been and what artificial intelligence might be in the future but on different levels I guess I mean you could say that the printing process destroyed our ability to to come up with things ourselves and realize things ourselves and go within and find the truth and instead reading books it is a great only reading books yeah here's a book you can read yeah I mean it's also artificial intelligence in a way no it isn't this is not virtual man okay not virtual it's not on a screen what's on a screen is virtual okay a lot of screen is not going to give you the future that is correct for Humanity but what's what's the what's the principal difference between gutenberg's printing press and and the com and the computer the printing press is a tool for producing physical artifacts which you can hold and carry with you you can go and sit under a tree and read a book and learn something the difference is that you can't go anywhere with the virtual unless you have an electronic screen and in that screen there is nothing you can nothing that you can hold it's not a physical artifact well I read I read your book on a screen actually gotcha yeah you got me on that one right anyway it's I I mean what you're saying is it makes a lot of sense and it's it's you you say many wise words um and this world that you're exposing here that you're you're telling about in your book and in your teachings is uh I mean it it's something else it's something that you won't find in many other places actually but it's um pretty fascinating stuff so John it's it's been it's been a fantastic conversation very interesting and very Foundation shaking I guess where can people find out more about you and your work if they want to do that well I don't do social media that should be obvious by now yeah that's obvious but I do but you do have a website you mentioned that I think and I have some YouTube channels but I don't I'm not really very inclined to do any much more on my YouTube channels but anyway the first place I would advise you to call is sophianic myth one word s-o-p-h-i-a-n-i-c myth and that will bring up uh a four and a half minute video montage with a voiceover that explains the sofianic myth that's where you begin apart from that there's my YouTube channel John lamblash which has a lot on it for instance there's a 13 uh part course on uh comparative mythology great so if you would like to know I'm a comparative mythologist you like to know how I work you can go take that course and then principally there is my school nemaka n-e-m-e-t-a dot org and that's where I uh present the work based on my intention to restore the humanities that's my goal the Gnostic teachers of the past taught the humanities they taught literacy are music they taught culture the richness of human culture and that is the purpose of uh nemata in my school and that's it and I don't do anything else on social media John lamblash thank you so much for being a guest on the show and thank you for spreading all your groundbreaking insights and knowledge well thanks for inviting me uh it's been a good ride full of Thrills and um if some of the listeners can draw some insight I would be happy that they can that's all I can say [Music]