A Vegan Fry-Up With Billie Eilish! | Hits Radio

Oh my god. Oh my god. I've got 

to be very careful with it. Fancy seeing you. Welcome to our Friday fry 

up. And seeing as we have the one and only Billy Eyish. It was only right that we had this 

fry up for lunch. Very good fl all morning. It went over my head for a second. I was like, wait, 

why is lunch interesting? And then I understood. So tell us what's your normal breakfast look 

like when you're at home? I usually don't eat breakfast. I'm usually like a waiting way too 

long to eat my first meal. It's like coffee is my breakfast and then like I'll usually eat at 

like two. Wow, that's impressive. Sometimes until like 4. What? I know it's not a good thing. It's 

just the thing that I do. No, I think you just got to listen to your body. You know, if you're not 

hungry, you don't eat. If you are hungry, when are you going to start listening to your body? I'm 

excited to just eat only sauces today. This is fun. No, I was going to say that I always hit in 

the sauce. Do you do that? I mean, I love sauce. I'm guessing this is a Wait, that's a brown sauce. 

Brown sauce. That's what you call it in England. You just call it brown. It's not barbecue. It's a 

whole different thing. It's kind of tangy. Should we? Yeah. Do it. Do it. Do it. Is that your first 

experience with brown sauce? No, I'm right. Wait. It's like a mixture of things. It's like it's 

almost barbecuey, but it's got like a ketchupy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Tangy. You are quite the chef 

though, aren't you? I I mean, quite the chef is a stretch, but yes, I love to cook. Because your 

your Dubai chocolate recipe basically broke the internet. And it looks so unbelievable. Let 

me tell you, it's amazing. I know it's like, you know, it's like brain rot food or whatever 

they call it, but you know, I kept seeing Dubai chocolate everywhere because it was such a huge 

deal. And I was like, that looks like diarrhea a little bit. And then I thought like what what's 

the appeal there? And then one day I was walking in New York and I saw Dubai chocolate in a window 

and I thought, you know what? I have to try it. And I tasted it and literally the most amazing 

thing in the entire world. So then I learned to make it vegan. Sorry. Yeah. Your your version's 

incredible. Holy. Thank you very much. Thank you, mate. Wow. Look at this bean chili situation. 

Oh, this looks really good. We only bring you to the finest places. Wow. Amazing. Could you 

cook something like this? If I had a a very very straightforward specific recipe. Yes. So, I 

think you should do like a bake off. I would be so The great British baking show, would you? Yeah. 

Because I need I get too distracted. I need like I need very very clear instructions. Instructions. 

Yeah. My mom is an amazing cook, so like she's the only reason I can make anything. and she like made 

me my own. She calls it mom's cook mom's cookbook and she put all her own recipes in it. And so me 

and Phineas like go through it every day and make amazing. Yeah, I'm better at making dessert baking 

situations than cooking. Yeah. Well, let's tuck it in. Get the hell in here. Firstly, we have seen 

Hit Me hard and soft the tour, your new movie. You've seen it? It's so congratulations. It's 

honestly, did you like it? Oh my god. so good feeling like it was so immersive that we felt 

like we were at your show but then also I love that we got to see all the behind the scenes like 

your prep and you just chatting or you interacting with fans and stuff. Um tell us all about what 

that experience was like because not only were you on tour but then you were filming this huge movie 

at the same time. Yeah, I know. Yeah, it it it was um not something I had planned to do at at all 

and I'd been on the tour already for like a year and it was coming to an end and I was thinking 

like like I love this tour so much I wish we were going to be capturing it. And then simultaneously 

with that feeling, my mom goes, you know, Billy, I got a email from James Cameron and he asked, 

you know, he had this idea to shoot your show in 3D and would you be interested? Anyway, that 

was obviously an amazing idea. Wow. And so we had a couple meetings and whatever and I just was 

like my main thing that I said to him was I really want to do this but I don't want to change the 

show at all. I want to like really represent the show well and he was fully in agreement with that. 

And then um and then we decided on Manchester and we went and we shot all and we shot some in O2 to 

practice, you know, when I was here in London over the summer and yeah, it was just like just like 

a fun and you know what was amazing was like yes, the prep was different than like a regular show 

cuz I was aware but as soon as I got on stage it was like any show like it it's it's really a good 

example of the show itself because it's nothing changed for it. Wow. It's cool that you put a 

camera inside the box. That's very cool, right? Because nobody can see that. And like, how do you 

guys do this where you're like eating? No, it's actually a game of where we just eat. It's a fun 

little And I just like Yeah. Um Well, what's cool about that to me, cuz that was like an important 

one because because in that box, it's a screen, but it's like it's almost like a two-way mirror 

almost. really clever where you can if you're inside it, you can see fully out and if you're 

outside it, you can't see at all in turn off the lights. Yeah, exactly. Which is like insane. I 

didn't even know that was possible until our first rehearsal and I couldn't believe it. And and so 

what's crazy is like as you saw in the movie, I I literally get in there and I'm I'm just sitting 

there looking at the crowd and they have no idea that I'm there. And so I'm like, you know, I'm 

like it's the only time where I can really be like not thinking about how I'm being looked at and I 

can just look myself and I'm like looking at all and and they're just I'm looking at I'm trying to 

read their lips and like see what they're talking about and then it's really cool. So when you first 

got that email about it being 3D, did you imagine those old school 3D glasses, the blue coming out 

of the screen? Literally. Yeah, of course. I mean, I haven't seen a 3D movie in so long. Like the 

idea of it was so kind of like childhood feeling, like very nostalgic to hear. Um, and I feel like 

I just don't I don't really see a lot of movies in 3D anymore as But it works so well because we 

were saying before, it's not like things are like coming out of the screen at you, although you it 

kind of happens a bit, but it's the sense of like depth of field. So it feels like we're actually 

watching you moving around the stage properly, you know, and the stage is amazing. It's like a 

playground for you. Like you're just like running around, jumping out of like that you say that 

because that's like that was one of my first ever uh comparisons when creating a tour was I was 

like I want it to feel like a playground cuz I want to like play on the playground. I want I used 

to say like can I have something to climb on and that's not as easy as like you might think. Like 

originally the tour was going to have a rope that I swing on. And then I was like no I need to swing 

over the crowd and they be like you can't do like and I was like cuz I cuz they were like you'd have 

to be strapped in. And I was like no I don't want to be strapped in. I want to grab on with my hands 

swing. And they were like Billy that's really not going to work. You're very much a thorough seeker. 

There was a moment where you were on the platform and it was like halfway up and you were just 

hanging your head on this and I was like but then I could see that you were still attached 

and I was like that's fine. But but even if I wasn't I would like to do it. But I never not you 

always managed to uncip yourself so quickly like I never saw it happening. Yeah. Well that was that 

was incredible. Were you worried you'd trip over it or something? Uh, like sometimes sometimes I I 

think the scariest part like would be actually and now that the tour is over I can say this without 

worrying worrying I want to jinx myself but I never got unhooked or like didn't hook myself in 

properly cuz that was scary for for a while. I mean honestly every time because because there's 

no railing and because it's like you can see it's like you know it's not very like it's sturdy but 

it's not like it wobbles stable. wobbling. It'd be wobbling. And uh yeah, like I would I would every 

now and then like that thing you're talking about where I would hang off the edge. I would always 

every show grab it just to make sure and sometimes I would like be able to lean or go farther than 

I thought and that was really bad. There was like one time where I was on my knees at the edge of it 

and I was I had my eyes closed and I was really in it and I like lean Oh no. I went to like put my 

arms down and they went off into nothing. And the Did you turn it into a dance move? Yeah. Yeah. 

It's cool. Yeah. So, you co-directed the film? I did indeed. With James Cameron. Not many people. 

Pretty cool. Yeah. My director of debut actually co-directed with James Cameron. Little But he 

learned some stuff from you because he witnessed the puppy room, the backstage puppy room, and he 

said he's going to have He was moved by my puppy room. I I think we were all moved by the puppy 

room and he said he's going to have he's going to have one. Do you know if he's going to have one 

in Avatar 4? He has said that many times now. Is it true? I don't know. But he has said it a lot. 

I I believe that it's true. I mean, I really can't speak higher of of the puppy room I've been 

doing. I think it's James. I get that guy. No, that guy too. Him too, obviously. But no, in terms 

of the puppy room, uh I've been doing that since like 2018ish. Oh, wow. Yeah. Where and it's all 

rescues. So like anywhere we go, we have a rescue come and bring either puppies or you know, adult 

dogs, senior dogs, injured dogs, whatever it is, whoever's available. And the amount of dogs that 

have been adopted from the puppy rooms on tour is like and they were having such a good time. I 

know all that. Well, it just gives you so much like it makes you feel so good. Like what's better 

than like doggage? Yeah. Dogage. Dogage. You know, it's true. Well, you were saying in the film 

like it's oxytocin. It releases endorphins. Um, but what's the situ like can people kind of 

audition their dogs to maybe I've got a dog and he's called Sandwich. You want to send him off 

tour? Well, I was Sandwich. He's called Sandwich and he's because you're going to be coming to the 

UK. I mean, I I Is it weird that I've brought a picture of him just in case? So, he just carries 

one. Wow. So, yeah, exactly. I have a big wallet that I keep this in. Um, do you want him on the on 

the You want to get rid of him or No, I come I'll be there as well. This is my way of saying, "Can I 

have some free tickets because of him?" Oh, yeah. We're We're always looking for tour dogs. He's 

really friendly. Look at all that fur. Apparently, he's really badly behaved. He's quite dirty though 

as well. When was the last room? He looks pretty dirty, but he's sweetie sweetie. Look, I love 

you. Can't even see his eyes. No, exactly. He's got a little You have to put his hair up. He's a 

baby. He is. Your show reminded me a lot of like a like a West End theater show in that you were 

sitting backstage doing your own makeup, which every performer like in theater does. And then 

you did a bow for every side of the arena. Like, could we see the Billy Eyish musical? Because 

I feel like your life story is amazing. Oh, thank you for saying that. Uh, hell yeah. I mean, 

maybe someday when I have time to do such a thing. Hell yeah. I would love to do that. That would be 

pretty crazy. Okay. I feel like I feel like Yeah. in a in a way I'm like so I mean I grew up as a 

dancer so that that kind of theater bowing to each side is like such a Yes. And also like love like 

being in plays as a kid and stuff like I love that that side. It was a nice attention to detail. 

Like you gave everyone in the arena a moment. That's another thing I noticed. You went to every 

platform. You ran along. You touched people's hands. You then gave love to that side, that side. 

Like everyone got a moment. Yeah, dude. Well, it's just like, you know, it was the first tour that 

I'd ever done in the round like that. And so at first I was really not used to it. And I was like, 

how do I play to every side and not let anybody feel left out? Cuz it's only me. It's not like I 

have, you know, anyone to like if I'm over here, no one can be over there. It's only So, I really 

like because of that, I'm I'm moving the entire thing. You cover a lot of ground. We're covering a 

lot of ground. I get a lot of steps on that stage. I get like a good few thousand steps and um yeah, 

and it's important to hit every side and make sure that every section is seen and like like for 

whenever it is in the show that I, you know, I'm like, "How's the right side? How's the left 

side? How's this side? And how's this side? And everyone in the balcony and everyone on the floor. 

Um it's just I want everyone to feel included cuz everyone's as important as the rest. Yeah. Yeah. 

And your fans are almost the co-star of the film and also like they are singing along. They're 

harmonizing with you with them. They sure are. It's insane. It's amazing. I know, right? You must 

be so proud. Thank you. I am really proud. And I feel like that was also the other main thing 

I wanted. I was like the the fans are are as important if not more so to me than like anything 

in this in this movie because I I I felt like it needed to represent obviously the truth and how 

I feel. And I'm like way too codependent with the fans during my show like I always have been. 

And it's like the way that that I the way that the crowd is and like everything that involves 

the crowd is is is so important to me. Like if they are not if they if I see anyone in the crowd 

who looks like they're not having a good time, it like literally makes me feel sick and I need to 

do something about it or like have a moment with them and um yeah, I put way too much pressure. 

Okay, so that's how we get your attention if we go to your show. Yeah. Yeah. just look really 

disappointed. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I can tell you saying I'm sad. It unfortunately will ruin the 

show for There was one show where there was a guy at the front of the of the barricade and when 

I was in the box specifically when he couldn't see me, he was like, "Oh no." And I am telling 

you, it ruined the entire show. Cuz the entire show I was trying to win him over and I never did. 

Really? I literally never smiled one time. Really? But he was right at the front. Yeah, he must have 

been smiling on someone's boyfriend or something. You know what I mean? Someone's boyfriend or like 

they I don't know. It It was It was so challenging cuz I can't help but need to win every single 

person. I'm sure you I'm sure you did really in one of the things I loved about the film was the 

use of the audio from the crowd. Yes. Right. Like because is it this is something that like massive 

crowds always sing in tune, right? some kind of thing. It's like they became a choir and they and 

just the choice moments where the volume raised on them. But was there a specific reason why you 

chose Manchester? Because I did hear I don't know whether this is just like British press biging 

it up, but I did hear that like UK crowds are kind of known for singing constantly like like 

every once it starts it's a big singalong. Yeah, exactly. Arguments we're doing too much. That's 

my favorite thing. Yeah. good for the good for the film. Yeah. Um I think that was definitely part of 

it. I mean, honestly, not to sound like whatever, but but all all all my crowds really are really 

so kind of no matter where I am, there's always this like we're all singing together feeling. But 

yeah, definitely Manchester has always been one of my favorite crowds to perform for. Like one of 

my first favorite shows I ever did was Manchester. It was this little room in like 2019 and that 

was so much fun. Amazing. So much fun. Imagine being there. I know. Let me go back. But it's like 

exactly it's again like we could have turned them all the way down for the mix of the movie, but 

it's not a representation of the show. Like it's like all about that. You know, Phineas is in the 

film too, but what was it like? Is that a spoiler? I don't know. I guess I guess it happened. It 

happened. Whatever. Um, was it difficult or scary like performing without him for the first time? 

Yeah, it was. It it it was weird because like, you know, I I I had literally never even traveled 

without Phineas, let alone I mean, ever performed without him because for the first like few 

years of my career, it was just me and Phineas performing together. Then eventually we got a 

drummer and it was the three of us, but still like anything else was the two of us. And um yeah, it 

it had been like a few years in the making. We had already been planning on like Phineas not coming 

on the tour cuz he has other things to do. And yeah, when it got closer and closer, I was like 

really it was really starting to hit me and like him not being at rehearsal and then him not being 

like I don't know. It it was really really scary. I mean obviously in the movie I'm like literally 

sobbing. Like we're all sobbing like he died. Like he he I literally was like, "Jim, can 

we please put a thing that says like Phineas is perfectly well? He's just he's just at home. 

His sister just really loves him and is very very homesick. Separation anxiety." Yeah. I do not have 

that kind of bond with my brothers. We grip each other a lot. Do you not like your brother? Oh, 

I love I love them. They're amazing. But I feel like we tease each other a lot. Do you ever Do you 

ever have that as well? Oh, yeah. Are you kidding me? 100%. Yeah, it's it's it's very normal brother 

or sister, but we love each other a lot and we are very good at working together. But like I try to 

think like would we be as good if we started now? Like I have no idea. I think it just we just 

thought, you know, I don't know. I I think we both believed in each other and thought, you know, 

were inspired by both. I think it would have been really hard if we when we were 13 and 17 when we 

first made Ocean Eyes like if we had thought the other wasn't cool then it would have been really 

you know what I mean you know when you think your sibling is like lame is lame what they do is lame 

it wasn't that and if it were then I don't think it would have worked out yeah I it's still just 

I obviously I know it but hearing you say that you were those ages when you just I know. You've 

had such a career and you're still so young. It's nuts. Like really crazy. See what you're going 

to do. Me and my brother and sister sisters, we we wrote a song when we were about that age, 

but we was just using our armpits to make noises. That was the sort of level we were at. How did 

it go? Yeah. The the tour film's coming out soon. 4D. It was 5D. In 5D sound, smell, the whole thing. Smell. I want 

to talk to you about your clothing and your image because I loved when you started talking 

about how you just wanted to feel free and you know be empowered on your own terms and I 

live in oversized clothing. I'm always in baggy clothing so much so that people are always 

texting the family WhatsApp group going are you pregnant because it seems to be this thing 

isn't it? Woman is in baggy clothing. She's hiding something right. I know. But I also loved 

that you've also empowered your fans because you could see them like in the stands and what they 

were wearing and it was like everyone was just expressing themselves. How important is that to 

you? I love that you spoke about that. A thank you. Uh it's super important. It's also like 

fashion and clothing, not even fashion. It's just such a important part of all of even if you 

don't care about fashion, what you wear is like the way you express yourself either that day or 

in your life, you know? And I've always been in love with clothing and and you know that that 

quote that Rihanna said years ago where she she said that fashion was like her what did she say 

like safety blanket and like her protection and like if somebody said something mean to her she 

could be like she could beat me but she can't beat my outfit. I loved that when I heard that when I 

was young. And like yeah, I think it's just such a powerful it's it's your your own personal way to 

express yourself without anyone having anything to do with it at all. Like you you can just and even 

if nobody knows how it makes you feel, you know, cuz you can feel it. And I think yeah, it's like 

it's just of course we live in this patriarchal, you know, nightmare. And so it's like like all I 

want to do is empower women to look and act and say and wear whatever the hell they want and not 

be asked if they'reing pregnant because of it and like queer people, gay people. We are often told 

we have to have six packs and like there's a lot of like focus on how people look and and not 

about like who you are. I know there's just so many standards for who you are and what you are 

and it's like if you are this then you must look and act like this and it's like you don't. And 

you talk about it on stage a bit as well. You're talking about how you want to create a safe space 

and you want everyone in that room to feel safe to truly be themselves. And I think that like we 

all found the film emotional. Yeah, like genuinely like we were all three of us were crying. Yeah. 

Genuinely a mess. Yeah. And and I think that I think it's I think that well it's a combination of 

that message and then the way you you know and and hearing from the fans. Yeah. And it's unexpected 

like response as well I think. But yeah, it really got to us. Yeah. We came to have a good 

time and we cried. We still did have a good time as well though. We did. It is incredible though. 

Thank you so much you guys. You know, it's so good. We need to talk about Buchella, girl. Okay, 

it was a big moment. You were on stage with Justin Bieber. Stop at Coachella and you didn't even I 

love the fact that you didn't even hide like how excited you were. Tell us what was going through 

your head. Well, this Haley like one song before. First of all, first of all, first of all, like 

Haley is like a very, very close friend of mine and so is Justin, by the way. Like, at this point 

in my life, which is a ridiculously surreal thing to accept. But like, when he's up there and he's 

singing these songs that were lifechanging for me, I'm already sobbing, sobbing, and sobbing and 

sobbing. And Haley goes, "I'm going to send you up to be the one with lonely girl in the next 

song." Okay. And I was like, "Sorry." And I go, "No, what are you what are you? No, no, you're 

not. What are you talking about?" She goes, "Yeah, I'm going to send you up. So, just get ready." And 

I started, you know, then I went frozen. And then I had no emotions. And then I became paralyzed 

and like looking around like, "Did anybody else hear that?" And and uh Yeah. And then um yeah, 

he starts playing one less only girl. I'm already sobbing my little eyes out. And then she goes, 

"Okay, Billy, I'm going to send you up." And I go, "Haley, please please come with me." She goes, 

"No, I'm already the oneless girl." And she goes, "Come on, you have to go, go, go." Incredible. 

And they literally, by the way, like the girl, this like girl comes up who's like, you know, 

helping me. She's like, "Okay, go." And she goes, "Just run up on the stage. Go ahead on your own." 

And I'm like, no one's going to walk me. Like, I have to just I'm going to look like I'm like 

stampeding him on stage like a crazy person like jumping on stage with him. And so, yeah. And I 

was really scared and and very red and sobbing and then obviously fell fell to my knees and was 

weak in my knees and couldn't. Yeah. And then I sobbed for the entire rest of the night. How old 

did you feel inside during that moment? I felt 12. Yeah. And what what would like 12-year-old you 

say to you? Stop it. I can't even deal with this. There's no word. I can't even talk about it. I 

There's literally no words. There's no words. What were you like the first time you met him? 

Were you Were you playing it cool the first time? No. There's footage of it. It's Oh, no. Well, I 

wouldn't honestly I did a similar thing. And it was at Coachella when I played Coachella in 2019 

and he we were watching Ariana's set and he I I see these shoes and I go those are Justin Bieber's 

shoes. I just knew cuz he was like anyway I I have to stop. He just but I like refused to hug him 

cuz I couldn't I couldn't even look near him and he kept trying and I was like nope can't look at 

you. And so similarly till the other day I had to I kept falling. Yeah. Which is great. He's spoken 

out as well about being a sport for you in the I can't even talk about this guys. Seriously, I'm 

like I'm like it's just too it's just too intense. It's like so People kept texting me like, "Are you 

going to post about the Bieber thing?" And I was like, "I can't. It's too sacred. I can't like it's 

too like h like I I it just it's just it's you guys don't understand the level of how much I love 

him. I'm trying to understand. Yeah. Like people have not seen me. I mean even sorry I'm going 

to just keep I'm going to show the week before I went. I didn't go to Coachella the first weekend 

because I I had a sore throat and I was laying in bed watching his set and I have a video of that 

too that maybe people hopefully won't see. But I'm I sobbed I sobbed the entire stream. But do you 

think this is what makes you such a good artist because you Cuz I'm a fan. You get that? Yeah, I 

think so. I mean, I guess I don't know. It's weird to speak about myself in that way, but I do feel 

like I'm a fan first, and so I I see myself sort of in the lens of like myself as a fan and like 

what I would want. I mean, I talked about that in the movie that I want to do as much as is possible 

for me and safe or whatever, but like to be an artist that I would want to be the fan of and 

like be reachable in the way that I wish that I could be if I were the fan, you know? Yeah. Yeah. 

Yeah. Have your wrists recovered? Yeah. They've recovered. Yeah. Stretches. Yeah. That they they 

the wounds would keep opening up every single show. They would start to scab and then they'd go, 

"You're really suffering for that." I literally love it. I don't I love it. Yeah. It's really 

cool. It's It's really beautiful. I feel like you have saved your fans. I mean, there's a boy 

in the film that says like, um, friends, therapy, nothing works. Billy only. Yeah. Have they saved 

you in the same way that you've saved them? Yeah, I think I I think like what's been really 

special about the fans for me so many things, but I think one that really remains sacred is 

like we've all like grown up together, you know, and because I was so young when this started, they 

were the same age as me and we were all these like like on when I was doing my first shows, I'm like 

the same age as all these people in the crowd and I didn't have a lot of friends at that time and 

so I kind of thought of them as my friends like like actually and I would meet everyone in the 

crowd too and I I became friends with certain fans and like with I'm still in contact with 

certain kids that I met in the crowd from the first time I ever did shows and like and like 

I still still on these tours I go to places I've been for years and years and years and see 

the same face that I've seen since I was 14 and it's just everyone's just grown grown up. We've 

all grown up together. And I think like that is something that I hold so dear to me and like 

so close to my heart because it's so amazing and magical. So it was such a great experience 

to watch it. I think if you're a fan of Billy, you're going to fall even deeper in love 

with her. And if you're not a fan, warning, you're going to become obsessed. Seriously. After 

you watch it. Seriously. Yeah. Thank you so much for joining us for this Friday for art. It's been 

so much fun. It's been amazing. Thank you. We actually have something that we wanted to give 

to you. You do. That we had made. It's my dog. Oh my god. Oh my god. We've got to be very 

careful with it. We've got to be very careful with it. It's a puzzle. Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh 

my god. Oh my god. There you go. Holy [ __ ] Oh my god. But there you are. Oh my god. You You 

two look so cute as well. Amazing. Oh my god, you guys. First of all, thank you so much. This 

is an amazing gift. I also love puzzles more than like anything. I'm such a puzzler. And it's quite 

a hard one cuz there's lots of blank really. Yeah, really hard, but it's like small enough 

that it's doable. I love this. This is also the most incredible picture in 

the world. Thank you so much, guys. That's amazing. Thank you guys. I'm sorry you 

didn't get to eat. That was pretty mean of us. I know. But thank you for the food. Sorry. 

It was good. The potatoes are delicious.