Overconfident Christian Meets The Wrong Muslim! Muhammed Ali

I'm doing great. So, we did speak before, right? Very briefly, you came with the same argument as every Christian nowadays, but yeah. >> No, listen listen. I asked you basically I was like I think the conversation started was I was trying to understand what the what the the Muslim view of of the Bible is, right? And so, we kind of went down a rabbit trail. And then I think where we cut off at was you had said that if you could find uh Muhammad in the Bible, I had said to you I would have to accept him as a prophet. I would have to become Muslim >> if he was in the Bible. And that's kind kind of where where we cut off at. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And the internet cut off there. But I also gave you a description. You said yes. You agree like with the description that I gave you. >> It was a hypothetical description, right? >> Yeah. You were about to basically you you had me agree to certain things and then I think you were going to take me to the passage, right? You said so if I can find >> Yeah. So I said to you >> Yeah. Yeah. So I I gave you a description and then you can tell me. Let me try and I kind of recall the description. Well, it's not it's not about the specific description, but we were talking about the idea of mention by by name. There's no such thing as idea of mention by name, but the description can be given. If the description is given and the description is fitting the individual or the person then it would make sense for us to accept that this person is prophesized in in the Bible. So we're talking about prophecies I think or something to that extent. So then I I told you okay what if hypothetically because you said prophet Muhammad isn't prophesized in the Bible. That was what you were saying. You were taking that position telling me there is no such thing. And if there was yes I would accept. So I told you if there was a hypothetical you said like what I said for example if hypothetically it mentions that he's going to be some that there's going to be a prophet that is going to come and he's going to specifically come to the Arabs and specifically even they say something in the in that geographical location it mentions something in the geographic location say a mountain or a or a place or a land it mentions something in the location as well and it mentions what he will do like that he's going to go to idol worshippers because the people at the time of the prophet were idol worshippers >> and he's going to hide them and he's going to defeat them and that he's going to let's say bring a new revelation, new law, >> right? Something completely new, new something not of the past law >> and he's going to come to all people >> or or or not the Jews basically. He's going to come to all people because you know the prophets were sent to the the children of Israel. No, he's going to come to the Gentiles, everyone. So I said if there's a description like the one I just gave you what I just said the the Bible says okay there's a prophet is going to come to the Arabs the prophet is going to come they say specifically something geographical about Medina or Saudi Arabia and they mentions he's going to fight idol worshippers and defeat them and he's going to bring a new law and he's going to come to the Gentiles. If there is a description like this. >> Yeah. >> And then you said you agree or you can correct me now that if there is such a description because this is literally the life of the prophet. I mean there's nothing really missing at this point. This is this is what the prophet literally did right. He came the new prophet brought a new law f the pagan worshippers. So if there is a such a detailed description >> then you would agree that prophet Muhammad is a messenger of God. >> So okay. So now you're taking me down this this trail of getting me to accept certain presuppositions so that when you take me to that verse, you can show me that he is mentioned in the Torah and the gospel, right? >> Yeah. So it's obviously it's the idea of accepting the principle before going to the verse because if you reject the principle, then I will ask you why do you reject the principle? Okay. >> Because you're >> Yeah. Because your argument was all based that that he's not mentioned. If he's mentioned, I would accept him. Okay. If he's mentioned you're going to accept him and there is a clear description of him >> and he okay if there is this clear description hypothetically then would you accept him >> then if you say no then like okay then then we see the clear inconsistency here there's no sincerity right the person is just arguing for the sake of argument so that is why I'm asking you before I'm taking you to the verses yes but there is that description I gave you exactly in the the old testament in in specifically Isaiah 42 the whole chapter is about what I just told you it's about a messenger that is going to come. It's about that that that messenger is going to go to idol worshippers specifically. Uh that that messenger is specifically going to fight against those idol worshippers and defeat them, put them to shame. >> Okay. Okay. Okay. >> And the name of God. >> Uhhuh. >> Right there. So th this is a part where I I I think you can be somewhat misleading when you talk to let's say Muslims who don't know the Bible or a Christian who doesn't really know their their scriptures is you don't post the verse. If you could put the verse on the screen and we go over it together, this is very easily not Muhammad because I'm I'm familiar with with this passage, right? You you said it's going to be a messenger who's going to defeat them in a battle. The messenger the the passage does not say that. So if you can put it on the screen, we can easily throw throw this verse out and prove it's not Muhammad in the first basically 30 seconds of reading it, right? Are you able to put it on? >> Yeah. Okay. So So yeah. So no, before we put anything on the screen, I don't need to be misleading because I literally give you the chapter. So when I give someone what if you just allow me to allow me just allow me to finish. Allow me to finish. >> Allow me to finish. >> Like there's no need to get so excited for a reason. Relax. We're relaxing. We're chilling here. I'm going to take you down all the roads. Don't worry. You're not you're not going to miss anything. >> So, I first gave you I said a hypothetical description. All right? And then I gave certain points of this hypothetical description. All right? >> Then I told you, okay, there is such a description of Prophet Muhammad of the points that I was mentioning >> in the Bible. And then I gave you the whole chapter. Now when someone wants to be misleading, they tell you something and they don't give you the reference. You know why they don't give you the reference? Because they don't want you to go and look. Now what I was going to do, not only what I was going to do, what I'm going to do, >> which is what I do with every single person I've brought this verse to in my videos in which we go through the verses one by one. And I tell them themselves, go and find the chapter now. And it's not a verse, it's a chapter. >> When you come and say, yes, when you come and say the verse doesn't say that, I didn't say a verse says that. I said the chapter holistically says what I just told you. So it talks about all the points that I've described. It's all mentioned in the chapter. >> Okay. >> And if you remember my points, you can come and tell me, okay, where is that point that you mentioned? Where is that specific point? >> Sure. >> And I'll be more than happy to show you each single point in each verse going through it. >> So while you're being so excited, let's go to the chapter and read it. Right. >> I don't need to bring it on the screen because then we become smaller and I don't need to do that. We can do it on our own. Like if you have a Bible with you, I'm assuming since you're a Christian, you have a Bible home somewhere. I know many Christians don't have the Bible home. But I do hope that you actually I hope that you actually >> do you disagree? Do you disagree that many Christians don't have the Bible home? >> Everybody is the Bible. But what do you mean by Christian? Because you know >> No, no, no. Sorry. Everybody has the Bible home? Obviously not. Like that's not true. >> That's not true. >> That's not true. We've got look look my my my channel is already a great representation of when I ask people bring the Bible like I would say eight to 10 times the Christians that I'm talking to which come to talk about their faith not just >> yeah on your phone. On your phone yes I mean the actual Bible. Anyways, right now let's read the chapter because you're saying, "Okay, what you doing in your vision, whatever, let's read the chapter together." And but but before we read the chapter, can you remind me what my points were because you're criticizing one of my points, saying it's not there in the verse. Obviously, the chapter, but you were saying >> Well, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, no, no. Right away, you you mentioned that it's it says messenger. I know exactly the passage of that chapter you're talking about. And if if if I'm correct on the passage of that chapter that you were talking about, that's why I said that's a little bit misleading and I I would prefer for other people who are listening to this stream for them to not be misled to think the Bible says because if they trust you as an expert, right? I've I've watched a lot of your things. They trust you as an expert on the Bible and and the Quran. But I'm saying in respect of truthfulness, it's important where if I speak of the Quran, I need to quote it correctly. And if you're going to quote the Bible, you need to quote it correctly so that I'm not misleading other people, right? >> Well, first, right? >> No, but but there's two things there. Number one, I wasn't quoting the Bible. I said, I'm going to give you a hypothetical examples, hypothetical points. So when someone gives a hypothetical example, they're not quoting verbatim. Obviously, I wasn't quoting verses there. I was telling you it mentions these points. So I was mentioning the points overall. That's number one. Number two, you said you know the verse I'm talking about. Which verse am I talking about when it comes to the messenger? >> Well, it's Isaiah 42. I don't know exactly which verse, but it's in Isaiah 42. Like >> Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So what what does You said you know you're aware of the verse. So can you tell me what is that verse that I'm misleadingly misrepresenting? >> Okay. Okay. Okay. >> That's even a word. Do Do you want me to read the the chapter? >> No. You know the verse. No, no, no, no. I want you now without looking at the chapter. Without looking, you're looking Without looking at the chapter because you said you're aware of the verse. You accused me. >> Yeah. Yeah. No, don't don't look at it. You said you're already familiar. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. You said you're already familiar with me. Look, when I say you're misrepresenting something, that means I'm aware of two things. >> Number one, the claim that you made. Number two, the the truth. >> And I'm saying you're misrepresenting the truth by a false claim. So now you have to show us because you made the claim. You said that I'm misrepresenting right and misleading people. So tell me now what does the verse actually say and how >> what I said is not in line with that. >> Sure. >> Unless you don't know what it says and then we can >> No, no. We'll read no. We'll read the entire thing shortly. But the the part of the verse without me looking I obviously don't have it memorized but it's the the what I assume is you're speaking of the part where it says the Lord will go forth with a mighty army or something like that. Absolutely not. Absolutely not. >> Okay. Okay then. Great. Okay. Then I I rest my case. Let's continue. >> Okay. Sure. So So that's what I'm saying. Like no need for for you to say I'm misrepresenting something. You haven't even gone to the chapter. I don't need to misrepresent anything. >> We will do it right now. I don't need to misrepresent anything when when I give someone the number because they can go and read. Now let's go >> through the chapter if you'd like. >> Verse by by verse if you want or or few verses by few verses. Now, but before we do again, can you tell me what is the description I gave? So, we can find it in the verses because you want me now. My my point now I made description and now we're supposed to find that description in the verses. >> What was the description I I've given? >> So, so you mentioned something about he'll be leading him in a battle. Correct. >> So, so correct me on these points. So, I just want to make sure >> I will I will mention and and I hope that you listen pay attention to the points I made. >> I got you. I got you. Yeah. >> Yeah. I'll mention them now. Point number one. Point number one, this person is going to bring an entirely new law. >> So, so it's not like Jesus saying, "I did not come to destroy the law, the prophets, or whatever, and he followed the same law." No, we're saying someone is going to bring a new law. Actually, new Torah in Hebrew. >> The word Tawra means law. So, it says new Torah. He's going to bring a new Torah. So, it's not the same Torah at all. And nobody else brought a new law that way. So, it says he's going to bring a new law. >> It says he's going to go to the Gentiles specifically. So, non non-Jews. is not a prophet, a Jewish prophet who's going to the Jewish people like the pro the other prophets that you're very familiar with like Jesus says I'm only sent to the lost children of the house of Israel or whatever. He's not he's not going to them nor in the beginning mainly or he's a prophet sent to the Gentiles. It says generally or the non-Jews or generally people it's sent to the coastlands it says like people around the world generally. So it's a general prophet for everyone. >> Yeah. >> And then it says it says that that prophet is going to the Arabs specifically. I I mentioned that specifically the Arabs. >> Okay. >> And it will mention as I said geographical locations as well. >> Okay. Okay. C can can you pause for a second? >> Yes. >> Can you pause? Okay. So, I'm the type of person where I like to be very thorough. And this is the thing about you and I and I actually like this about you, but it drives me crazy at the same time is you will quote these little passages of the Bible >> that you you quote them as as if you're casually quoting them, but you're trying to per So, so for example, you quoted Jesus saying, "I was only sent to the lost sheep of the house of Israel." What are you do? Do you know what you're trying to to do when you quote that verse out of context? He is sent to the house to >> to I think >> why why quote that when we're not talking about that? >> No. Yeah. Yeah. No, I I quote that because some people >> try to say Isaiah 42 is about Jesus and cannot be about Jesus in any way. That's why I'm highlighting points >> in which why it cannot fit Jesus. Okay, that does that make sense now? >> That's why I'm mentioning these points for the people who say, "Oh, no, it's about him." >> So, it's there is a minority of people. or let's say a minority or or a group of people who will say that. So this is me refuting them while speaking. Now you said not aware of the context. Do you know the context >> of of what >> that Jesus saying I've not been sent except to the lost children of the house of Israel. Do you know the context? >> Yes, I do know the context of of he was sent first to the Jew and then sorry to leave. >> No no no that's not that's not that's not the chapter. >> That's the context. >> No no no no that's not the chap that's not the context. Context is verses before and after. That's what the word context means. >> Context is the content of the text before and after, right? So the context, what is the context? The verses before and after. Can you tell me? >> Well, we we can go to it. The things I Okay. So So >> no. So you don't know it because you know what I'm trying to highlight. >> Here's the thing is Yes. Oh my god, bro. Okay. All right. Go. Go ahead. >> I'll tell you what I'm trying to highlight. I mentioned the why what I'm doing right now is I'm showing people that you're accusing me >> of what you don't have with all due respect because I mentioned the verse then you said you went on to say oh you're quoting the verse without knowing the context was that got to do with what we're saying. So first I know the context very well and not only that I'll tell you the number of the verses and I'll tell you the verses before and after. >> It's specifically in Matthew 15 24 and I'll tell you the context as well. The context is that Jesus speaking to a Canonite woman. The Canaanite woman wanted him to heal her son, her sick son or whatever. The disciples begged him. You see, see, I'm very familiar with the context, my friend. I don't call things out of context. That's what Christians do. >> And sadly, that's >> the reason I mention that. Can I just mention the reason I mention that because obviously if I go to the passage and I read it, I it will remind me what the context is. But I I just know what Muslims do. I I have a lot of Muslim people in my life. I know you guys will throw out passages of the Bible. So for example, you say, "Oh, Jesus said that he only came to the lost sheep of the house of Israel." Meaning he wasn't sent for the whole world. That's the reason I said don't quote that passage because by quoting that passage and not explaining that Jesus was speaking to the Canaanite woman, it was in a specific context. Not meaning, oh, Muhammad was sent to the whole world and the Gentiles, but Jesus was only sent to the Jews. That is what I mean. So be careful when you quote a passage. >> But you haven't really said no. I think you're still you're still wrong. I still my point still stands. Where did Jesus ever say he sent to everyone? >> Okay. Okay. So, Matthew 28 where Matthew 28:18 or something like that where he says baptized in the name of the father, the son, and the holy spirit. Yeah. The great commission. >> Go into the whole the Exactly. So, you're you're enticing just by that verse. >> No, it's not shut no it's not shut down at all. It's not shut down at all because this verse has been quoted by many multiple scholars to be fabrication. And do you know why they call it a fabrication? >> There's not a single manuscript that doesn't have that verse, bro. >> No, no, no, no. I'll tell you. No, no, no. What do you mean talking? You're not even familiar with what I'm about to say. You're talking about >> Yes, I am. I heard. >> Okay. What am I going to say? What am I going to say? Go ahead. >> You're going to say, "Oh, that passage has been disputed by certain scholars." But >> what? I already said that. You can't >> Why is it disputed? >> You can't find a single manuscript. >> No. Why? Why? Why is it disputed? Tell me. >> My My guess is because it's probably not in the Q gospel, right? It's not a shared saying between >> probably some stupidish like that, right? >> No, the reality is this is the reality. Again, you proving to the people that you're speaking with all respect with ignorance. You you you think I'm going to say something. You're like, I know what you're going to say. No, you don't know what I'm going to say, my friend. That's you. You're not God. You don't know the future. You gota allow me. You gota allow me to finish my sentence and my argument before you say, "Oh, I know what you're going to say." Then say something ridiculous like about Q. Of course, it's not in Q because we don't have Q anyways. But >> okay, so why why is it disputed? Why is it disputed? >> Yeah, that's what I was about to say before you you me thinking that you know what I'm talking about, but you don't know. Now, in this verse, allegedly allegedly Jesus is addressing the disciples. He's given them a command. Correct. >> Okay. Yep. >> What is he telling them to do? >> You want to pull it up? Go ahead. >> Yeah. Up here. >> Okay. So, the 11 disciples went to Galilee to the mountain where Jesus had told them to go. >> When they saw him, they worshiped him and then and some doubted. Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven on earth has been given to me." That's a prophet saying that. This is beautiful. I'm glad we're reading it. Therefore, go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always to the very end of the age. So, this passage right here, Jesus is claiming to be God. Even even just that passage, just beautiful. But anyways, go on. What were we gonna say? >> Okay. I'm going to keep shattering your overconfidence until you stop having overconfidence because you don't need it when you don't you don't have an argument. So when you say all authority I'm going to show you right now. I'm going to show you right now. >> Okay. Okay. All right. Go ahead. Now >> now pay attention to what I'm about to say. >> I'm I'm paying >> when someone says when someone says >> all the money I have has been given to me. >> Okay. >> Does that mean it's his money or someone give it to him? That means that it was given to him. >> Ah, so when Jesus says when Jesus says all authority on earth have has been given to me, does that mean he had it or has it been given to him? >> Okay. Okay. So, let me let me give you a little >> No, no, sorry. Please answer the question. Please, please, please answer the question. >> No, no, no. I'm not going to answer the question how you want me to because you're going to try. >> You're not going to answer the question >> saying Christian. No, because I know what Christians believe. >> We already got the clips. Christians believe we've got clips now. Beautiful. Beautiful. I can't I can't I can't wait to see. >> It's not about the clips. Christians believe father, son, and holy spirit. Right. We believe the son became incarnate. Therefore, he set aside a part of his glory. So Jesus in in in John also says, "Father, glorify me with the with the glory I had with you before the world was." So, it's something Jesus put aside for a time and then he was going to have it back. So, when you want to play with the Bible ripping, not taking the whole thing of of what we believe into into account, this is what you do. You end up with Islam all over the place belief, right? But what I'm trying to say is when you take the entire gospels together, it all makes sense. Jesus can be given something, but it doesn't mean that he is less than the father in an onlogical sense, right? For a time he put his glory aside so he could be a man so he could die because God can't die. >> He needed to put on flesh born as a woman. That is what Christians have believed for 2,000 years. Right. >> So, >> okay. Now, now what's this is I like it's it's lovely but look I let you speak, you know, so don't interrupt me. >> Go ahead. Yeah, I won't. >> It's it's lovely when Christians the more they speak, the more they shatter their own faith, you know. What what what else can what else can can be done? Like you guys do the the job for me and you still haven't answered the question. So which is the most beautiful thing that you're showing that you're show you're showing people. >> Okay. As you said, don't need to interrupt me. Let me just say my sentence and then I'll ask my question again >> that hopefully you're going to answer this time. >> So you say, "Oh, people play play with you guys when you play by the Bible and you bring these verses." You brought the verse, not me. You brought the verse and then you read the verse and then you said, "This verse proves Jesus is God." All I did is asked you a question about the verse. Then all of a sudden now you don't take the entire gospel. You play with verses. I didn't even do it that you brought the verse. You read the verse and overconfidently while it shot you in the foot, you thought it means Jesus is God. So I asked you a very basic common sense question. >> When the verse says all and then you you went on to say that oh because Jesus died but God doesn't die. So again you shoot yourself in the foot again. I like Christians really surprised me. You see, Jesus is God. >> Bro, you have to die. God doesn't die. But >> No. No. You have to listen. Listening is a skill. Listening is a skill. Did you hear what I said, bro? >> No. Don't take my words out of context, bro. >> Yeah. I'm the teacher of that skill because I'm telling you what you said. So, I'm going to say this again. I'm going to say that. I'm going to say this again. Look, I'm able to listen to you. If you talk about listening, you're interrupting me while I'm speaking. I didn't interrupt you. Who else? Who needs the skill? Not Not me at this point. So, I'm going to say this again. >> Teach me. >> I asked you the question. Okay. >> Yeah. Perfect. I'm going to do it now. I'm going to ask you the question again before we keep jumping everywhere because we need to come back to where we were, which is about the prophet Muhammad didn't mention in the Bible. This is not an ego battle here. Now, I'm going to mention the question again. >> I said to you, when someone says all the money I have has been given to me, does that mean he had it or has been given to him? You said it means it's been given to him. He didn't have it. I said the same thing about Jesus. Now, we agree. Now, you said yes, Jesus has been given authority, but he's been given to the father, but it doesn't matter because we have three and three in one. And because three in one then then he can be given something by the father. It doesn't mean that he's less than a father ontologic. Look I can say what you said word for word because I'm listening. >> But it doesn't matter because it doesn't answer the question. >> It doesn't matter because it doesn't answer the question. Why does it not answer the question? >> Because the minute you have no authority, you cannot be God. And your claim is always that Jesus was 100% God on earth, he never was not God. He was always God. So when you claim that Jesus was always God all the time 24/7 you cannot be God all the time 24/7 you had no authority and you needed something other than yourself because the father is not the son in your theology to give you that now the father never is voided from authority. The father never gets anything from anyone. >> The father gives everything. The father knows everything. The son doesn't know everything. The son is given everything. the father, the the son needs permission, needs to be told what to do, has no power on his own. And then you guys come and tell us, "Oh, he's God." So that verse that you brought again, that verse that you brought, because you keep jumping here and there, that verse is a proof against you. >> And I'm glad you read it. And look, the more you read of the Bible, that's what I always say to the Christians. The more you read of the Bible, the more you're going to realize is shooting you in the foot when it comes to your false theology about Jesus being God. Now, do you want to stick on the point or you want to stick stick on this point or you want to actually deal with the point first that we were talking about the baptism about the baptism and then go back to the prophet. So, let's talk about the baptism quickly. You read the verse already. >> It added really nothing. Jesus is telling to the disciples to go to the baptizing holy. So, I asked you the question. I'm going to ask you again about the verse. >> Jesus is commanding the disciples to do something. All of them, right? In this case, >> he's addressing the the disciples and he's giving them a direct command, a direct order >> according to you. They believe he's God, which we we don't have any proof for that. But those people who believe he's God, >> I wouldn't say that. I wouldn't say that. >> So, they don't believe he's God. So, they don't believe God. >> Okay. No, no. So, this is just kind of a something I'm I'm saying as as a human. I I don't know. Right. From my understanding, I don't believe that the apostles or people really listening to Jesus really understood his identity when he was here. I think there's a lot of confusion, right? Because there's lots of passages in the Bible that said, "Why does this man speak this way?" uh a lot of people misunderstanding because he's spoken a lot of riddles, right? And so I do think there's I I wouldn't necessarily say the apostles or the disciples believe he's God at that point. I don't think they really know that. They know he's the Messiah, right? >> Love it. Perfect. Amazing. I love it. You know, just shake hands on that. The disciples did not know that Jesus was God. And and and this is the most beautiful. >> But that that's not I love it. No, no, no. It's not Islam. >> No, no. I'll tell you why Islam. I'll tell you why it's a slam dunk. It's really not. No, it's really not. >> Okay. Sure. Sure. You know, whichever term you want to use, slam dunk or whichever term. I'll tell you why is a slam dunk using your own terminology. Because your own Christian fellows, they argue 24/7 that they believed he was God. They believed he was God. They knew he was God. They lied for him because they believed he was God. They argue that to us 24/7. So, you're almost after he was gone. After he was gone. >> I'm going to interrupt, bro, if you don't. No. Respect. After he was gone. >> No. Oh, and I can remove you. I can mute you, right? But I'm being respectful when I'm talking to you. You're on my platform. I'm I'm being so respectful to you. I don't interrupt you on my own platform. >> So, be respect respectful back, you know, before I I mute you. I don't need to do that. >> No, be respectful in my scripture, bro. That's what I'm saying. >> No, I'm respectful. I'm respectful. I'm No, I didn't talk about your scripture. I talked about other Christian. >> No, you're ripping it out of context. That's what I'm saying. Don't do that. >> Okay. I I know it hurts, but allow me to finish what I'm saying, please. Like I do. Look, I let you say whatever you want to say because I know it's falsehood in the end and I can easily refute it. I don't need to interrupt you to refute it. >> All right. >> So again, I'm going to say this again. >> You are only slam dunking your other Christian apologist that come on because they are the ones who tell us 24/7. And then we're going to say, okay, so we agree on this point. I love it. Let's shake hands. I you know I'm shake hands. >> I'm happy. There we go. >> Perfect. So now after shaking hands, I'm going to say if his own disciples who lived with him, who followed him throughout all his life walking on earth, didn't know he was God, how can you come blame the poor me for not believing he's God or blame the other poor people who don't believe he's God? They were literally with him. They were eating with him, drinking with him, walking with him, doing No, no, no. I'm you can answer in your time once once I'm I'm just done finish because I don't get the time to answer everything you say. >> So all right. So now the disciples because I was asking the question for a reason because we we're going to move on. We don't want to keep staying in the same place. So you say, "Okay, they didn't know he was God." Okay, perfect. He didn't know he was God, but they still believed he was the Messiah. He was he's a mighty prophet of God. He's commanding them on the authority of God and they need to do everything he tells them. So it doesn't matter even if they don't believe he's God. They believe that this needs to happen. >> And these disciples were the best examples to follow. Not the betrayal, the person who betrayed Judas or whatever, but the other disciples who followed Jesus and spread the religion and tried their best to follow his commands. These were good disciple examples. And when Jesus commands them to do something like this, they're going to do it. He was telling them to go and baptize in the name of the father, son, and holy spirit. So, they're going to go and baptize in the name of the father, son, and holy spirit. That's common sense. >> Okay. Now, bring me one disciple that baptized in the name of the father, son, and holy spirit. One. You got acts of the apostles and you got discip the disciples baptizing. Bring me one of them in the entire Bible that baptized in the name of the father, son and the holy spirit. >> Okay. So my my belief around that basically is that uh father son and holy spirit is I guess how how can I put this because this is why you're saying scholars would would dispute this right because when you read the book of acts they either bapt baptize in the name of Jesus or in the name of I don't know what else they say they baptize in the name of Jesus yes >> yes right right >> and and it's impossible that all the disciples have heard a direct command from Jesus all of them and not a single one of them how went and did the command that was they were asked. So my argument is not about you and this nonsense. This is a scholarly argument anyways. It's not mine. >> That's why it's a strong argument because they they trace the scripture. They trace the scripture. They realize the scripture clearly has multiple instances where we see the disciples baptizing and not a single one of them does that. So if Jesus truly told them to do that, they would have done it. Mhm. >> And also there's other verses where Jesus tells the disciples explicitly not to go to the Gentiles >> in Matthew 105. He tells them do not go to the >> Gentiles to the way. Yeah. >> Yeah. Go go go specifically to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. So it also contradicts. >> So when we have this verse that contradicts other verses like Matthew 15:24 like like Matthew 105 that I mentioned to you and there's not a single instance of the Bible of anyone following this command of the disciples. We say that this verse therefore is not a verse that is reliable and it is very dodgy and that's why these scholars have criticized this verse. Now other than that you don't have like I said you don't have anywhere where Jesus himself we talk about Jesus again even you know even if I were to accept this verse it doesn't prove the point because I was I was talking about Jesus not his disciples >> Jesus could only be sent to the Jewish people but then his disciples go to everyone it doesn't matter >> but Jesus himself because the verse is about the prophet it's not about his disciples >> if the prophet himself Jesus never says like I said even when I'm doing steel man your argument and accepting the verse even though I shouldn't but I'll accept accept it for the sake of argument. Even if I accept it for the sake of argument, where does Jesus himself say he sent to everyone or goes to anyone and other than the lost sheep of the house of Israel? He never does. He always goes to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. He never went to any other nation baptizing this nation and guiding this nation saying I'm sent to you guys. I'm I'm not only sent to the Israel. He never did this. And therefore, my argument still stands. Now let's come back okay again to the main point which is Isaiah 42 which one point is just like one of the side mentioned which here I demonstrated why I've mentioned it but I mentioned on the side like I said because some people try to say that Isaiah 42 is about Jesus. Now let's go back to the actual chapter which is Isaiah 42 and the description of prophet Muhammad in the chapter. All right. Now let's read these verses and again I'm going to say my description because you stopped me in my description right I'm going to say it now if you allow me to finish it. >> I said he's going to bring a new Tawra. is going to go to Gentiles and coastlands, people of the world generally. He is going to go to idol worshippers and going to fight against those idol worshippers and he's going to defeat those idol worshippers and put them to shame. So he's go he's going go like a man of war. He's going to fight war. Yeah. >> We're not talking about a peaceful person uh who's not going to do you know say give to Jesus the taxes. No, we're talking about a man of war who's going to fight against other people. I'm just saying wise cannot be Jesus again. Right? I'm just highlighting something. >> Huh? Then it says it's a messenger. It mentions a messenger. And don't reject the messenger that I'm sending to you. You will read that as well because I'm not talking about God. No, no, no. I'm talking about a specific verse that mentions messenger word for word. And it mentions the Arabs going to the Arabs and the Arabs singing a new song, a new praise from the mountains. You know who sings from the mountains and praises God every day? It's the Muslims on the mountains of Saudi Arabia every single day. talking about millions, millions in the geographical location that is mentioned in the verse because the verse mentions Mount Silah which is a mountain in Saudi Arabia Medina. It mentions the Arabs specifically, >> the children of Kedar, which if you open Genesis 25:13, it talks about the children of Ishmael and Kedar being the Arabs, which all biblical scholars agree on anyways. >> So now let's read the verse. >> Yeah, sure. So, so, uh, so with us reading Isaiah 42, so you believe Isaiah 42 is is preserved, right? >> You don't believe this is a corrupted part of the Bible? >> No, that's what you're missing again. >> Just curious. >> Yeah, we we kind of touched on that topic last time, and I'm going to repeat the same thing that I said last time to you. >> I said to you, we as Muslims, >> our position when it comes to the Bible, it has been changed. But then I said to you just because something is changed the word changed does not mean that everything in it is changed. >> Now there could be certain things that are mentioned as descriptions and that these descriptions are still preserved even if they twist their wording even if they try to change them a little bit but the majority of the description still can remain the way it is. Like there's a narration from one of the companions that mentions some of the things that are mentioned in the verses like not crying in the market places that when he was saying that the prophet is described in the previous scriptures one of the companions of the prophet Muhammad Mkhari and he mentions some of the things in this verse actually which even strengthens the argument I'm making is that he's saying that 1,400 years ago he's not even saying it today he's saying that 1,400 years ago. So >> this verse I I I can I don't need to say the whole chapter is preserved. But what I can say is you as a Christian who believe in that scripture is binding for you just like the Quran is binding for me when you're coming to me with verses in the Quran. I could ask you do you believe this verses from God and you're going to say you know but it doesn't matter because I believe them. Therefore these verses are binding to me. So since this is binding to you and that's the whole argument I was making. If your own book tells you >> which is binding to you that there's a prophet is going to come and that is prophet Muhammad there's a description would you have to accept and you said yes. >> So now these descriptions I gave him to you said yes I agree these descriptions that are there I'm going to accept. Now let's highlight these descriptions in the in the in the chapter and let's be honest and sincere. Let's go ahead and read the chapter. >> Sure. You reading uh out of NIV or what are you reading out of? I'm just curious. >> Okay. I I'm actually going to read while you're reading from any version you'd like to read because I mean I don't trust whatever most of the versions used. But whichever version you're going to use, >> what what what version do you do you like? I I whatever version you like I can read. >> Well, like I said like I said to you, I do believe all of them are are changed, but there's ones changed more than the others. Like like the King James has changed a lot more than others, for example. It's it's relying on later manuscripts than it is relying on earlier ones. So if you're reading something other than the NIV, then you're probably better when it comes to manuscripts. That's that's all of it. But I still believe you don't have an original, so it doesn't really matter. But for you, you can choose whichever one you like. And I let the Christians usually use whichever one they like and we can read with that. But I'm going to do a sneaky dude, bro. You are a sneaky dude. Oh my god. Okay. So you just said No, no. No. No. This whole thing you just said about >> Are we going to read or not? Like we we've said 20 times now. >> No. I need to keep going to everything else. Can you go to everything else except for >> I'm biting my tongue. I'm I'm I'm biting my tongue when I talk to you just out of respect for your platform, right? Sure. >> You keep pointing out all these little things I want to respond to, but I'm just like, "Okay, just let it go, Melo. Let it go. Let it go." Just so let's read let's read let's read the scripture. Let's not deflect. >> No, you're going to read from wherever you're going to read. >> King James version is the Hebrew. >> Yeah. But let me just say before you read King James version the the only re the when I say what version are you reading out of just for the the audience who are not knowledgeable on on how this works is all English translations of the Bible when I say NIV KJV they're all translated from Greek right so the KJV was translated the earliest earliest 1611 KJV right which was translated by quote unquote less reliable manuscripts, right? Because they were older and those maybe around 11 or 12 of them that that they used, right? So there'll be passages like 1 John 5:7 or or whatever it is that were not in the in the earliest manuscripts, things like that. But the message is the same in all of them, right? This is just called textual criticism. The Quran has sexual criticism. The Bible has textual critic. We can do this all day with textual criticism of the Quran. Hadith say surah 33 used to have 200 verses in the hadith that are missing from the Quran today. >> That's wrong. That's wrong. Look what you're doing right now. Look look again you again what you're doing now and again you're coming over confidently and you are diverting from the over you are confident from running away from rowing running away from because you you keep saying we can do this all day. I'm not saying this. You're saying that I'm telling you to relax a little bit. Can Okay. Okay. Let me finish. Let me finish. Let me finish. Let me finish. I let you speak. Let me finish. >> You look this is the problem with with Christians. Like you ask them let's read. We've been saying let's read the chapter for 20 years now. Then he goes to the Quran has chapter. Bro has nothing to do with what we're talking about. When you asked about the Quran, I never went to the Bible even once. Last time you came, you asked about the Quran. I answer everything. I never went to the Bible once. I don't need to. But you guys have to go to our book because you know you can ask >> now. Now you you lie that misrepresented again what the hadith says. The hadith doesn't say anything is missing. Hadith talks about abrogation and abrogation is mentioned in the Quran itself. Allah mentions in chapter 2 in the Quran do not abrogate a verse or cause it to be forgotten. >> So Allah talks about abrogation and causing verse to be forgotten. Allah talks in the Quran and if we replace a verse with another verse explicit in the Quran like you've not discovered something strange you're thinking you're very smart or something nothing was hidden there are verses that were revealed yeah allow me to finish allow me to finish you don't know about the that's why I'm educating you about it so these are talking about abrogation and all Muslims believe in abrogation and no Muslims have any issues with verses being abrogated we all believe that there was verses and the verses were abrogated now let's stick on topic and stop running away to things which are not related now you you try to uh Again, this is the the overconfidence again. Oh, it's just translations. No, it's just it's not just translations that they all get they're all the same like you're trying to say. No, they're not all the same. >> They're not all given the same meaning. And you gave an example yourself. You said 1 John 5:7 is not the only example. The ending of Mark is another example. John 7 52 or 58 to the story of the woman. All of it. All of the I can go on and on and give these examples that will be found in some manuscripts that are not going to be found in others. also which one you're reading has different books. The Quran is only one doesn't matter what you what you say it's all 114 chapters you are talking about now 66 73 82 88 83 88 all of these things we don't have that in Islam. >> So don't don't don't deceive the viewers all the respect and say to the people like it's all like it's all the same. No there's extra books >> book you know book of this like there's extra books that are found depending on the denomination that you follow. It's not a translation. There's extra literature in some and literature that is not mentioned in others. But let's stick on the point again. >> But we can move on. We'll move on. >> Yeah. Let's go back to the the point and actually read let's actually read this so you can move on from this to the next person, right? Okay. Let's let's go ahead. I said you read from whatever you want. I'm going to pull up the Hebrew in front of me, >> right? The original Hebrew, which is not not really original, but whatever you have the earliest you have the Hebrew Hebrew. I'm going to read it while you're reading just in case because translations play games all the time. So, we can always have the Hebrew and look at the Hebrew. >> All right. I can do that, too. >> I'll do the same I'll do the same thing you're you're going to do with the Hebrew >> just so we're kind of on the same page there because >> Yeah, you can. Sure. Sure. Do Do me a favor and read from the translation that you're going to read. And I'll tell you why I'm going to do that because I want to demonstrate to the people. >> You can compare it. Sure. >> Yeah. Exactly. I want to show the people how they play games with words as well while you're reading and they change certain things. So go ahead and and and and read. >> Okay. >> Which one are you reading? >> Uh NIV. >> NIV. Okay. Go ahead. Read. >> Yeah. Uh Isaiah 42. So here's my servant >> whom I uphold, my chosen one in whom I and whom I delight. >> I will put my spirit my my spirit on him and he will bring justice to the nations. He will not shout. >> So, >> okay, >> here's the first problem. He's going to bring justice to the Gentiles because nations can include that he's going to the nations of the Jewish people. But why do translations not use the word Gentiles while the world used is specifically in Hebrew about Gentiles specifically because they want to fit that some Christians say this is about Jesus. So if they put Gentiles then they know they have an issue. So here is the games that I talk about. Let's let's move on. Let's let's move on reading. Yeah. >> Okay. Um, just as as a side note, I I don't have I can't pull up another translation, but my I I would guess there's translations that do use the word Gentiles would be my guess because there's a million translations, right? >> Yeah. Overwhelming majority don't, but Yeah. Yes. >> Okay. Okay. All right. Um, verse two. Um, he will not shout or cry out or raise his voice in the streets. >> Um, bruised read he a bruised read he would not break. and a smoldering wick >> he will not snuff out. >> Um in faithfulness he will bring forth justice. >> He will not >> So means nothing will deter him basically. Nothing will deter him basically until he fulfills his goal. Yeah. Continue reading. Sorry. >> Yep. Yep. Um he will not falter or be discouraged till he establishes justice on the earth. >> In his teaching the island the island the islands will put their hope. >> Uh this is what God Lord says. >> So here Yeah. So there is this is the second playing with the with the verses. This is the second games the translators play. So they can change what the verse is actually saying. The verse is not saying for his teaching. Teaching is a very general word that can mean anything. It says the coastlands will wait for his Tawra. This guy's bringing a new Torah. It's not just like a normal person. He's bringing a new Tawra in Hebrew. He's a new Tawra is coming now. So forget now about Moses's Torah. There's a new Tawra, a new divine concrete law that is coming. This person, people in the coastlands are waiting for that new divine concrete law to come. So here, so far my points are being mentioned. So far my that prophet sent the whole world. Yeah. Let's continue reading. Yeah, >> sure. Sure. Um so yeah in his teaching okay this is what the God the Lord says the creator of the heavens uh who stretches them out who spreads out the earth >> uh with all that from it. >> Yep. Yep. Um who gives uh breath to its people and life to those who walk on it. >> I the Lord have called you in righteousness. >> But okay one second. Sorry. I'm gonna I'm gonna read again because look the verses say what does the verse say? The verses says, "I will give you as a covenant to the people." Now look, you've been reading something completely different than what I'm reading now. But this is what the Hebrew say. I'm not there yet. >> Which one are you reading? Which which one are you reading? >> Which verse? >> NIV. NIV. So I'm in verse six. >> No. Which verse? Which number? Six. Yeah, I was reading six now. >> Okay. >> Read six again. >> I the Lord have called you in righteousness. I would take a hold of your hand. I will keep you and will make you to be a covenant for the people and a light for the judgment. >> Yeah. Wait. So, okay, that's fine then. So, the verse is saying specifically that this prophet, God will give him will use him as a covenant to the Gentiles. >> As a light to the Gentiles. So, this prophet is going to have a covenant with the Gentiles. He's going to bring a new Torah to the Gentiles. He's going to bring a new law to the Gentiles. By the way, we are the Gentiles. Yeah, you and me. Like, we're not. We are the Gentiles. Okay. Continuing. >> Everyone everyone who's a a non-Jew basically is a Gentile. The rest of the world. Yeah. >> Yes. >> Um so a light to for the Gentiles to open eyes of their blind to free captives from prison and to release >> from the dungeon those who sit in darkness. >> Okay, we're good so far. >> Okay. Uh I am the Lord. I am the Lord. That is my name. >> I will not yield my my glory to another or my praise to idols. see the former things. >> So, one second. Sorry. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. So, here God is referring specifically to idol worshippers. So, he's saying he's not going to give his glory to idols to grave images. So, this specifically in context of Gentiles who are waiting for a man that is going to come to them as a covenant with a new law and against >> what is the covenant against? It's against this idol worshiing that is taking place. God is not going to give that glory. He's not going to allow this glory to be continued to be given to graven images and idols. Yeah. So there's glory there. There's glory there and God is saying I'm not sharing it with these idols and people worshiping idols. I don't share my glory with anything. >> Okay. So here here's here's something to note also. So in verse six where it says I the Lord have called you in righteousness. I will take hold of your hand. I will keep you and make you to be a covenant for the people. >> It's saying the person himself the person himself is the covenant. Is Muhammad a covenant? >> The Muhammad the person himself. Of course. >> Are you the first Muslim ever say that? That's brand new. >> You're welcome. You're welcome. No worries. It's all about your interpretation of the word covenant. That's it. Yes. Continue reading. >> Yeah. Because Christians literally believe Jesus is a covenant, right? >> Yeah. We don't have an issue with that. Allah says in the Quran, the covenant of Allah specifically has been given to us. So, so Allah talks about Prophet Muhammad and how the covenant has been taken to him and how he's going to be a witness over us. All of these things are in the Quran. All you need to do really is to just read the Quran. >> But go let's continue reading. Yes. >> Okay. Uh I'll open be covenant for the people life for the Gentiles. Uh to open eyes that are blind to free captives from prison. I think I already read this part, right? >> Um so I am the Lord, that is my name. I will not yield my glory to another >> or my praise to idols. See the former things have taken place >> and new things I declare. >> Um before they spring into being, I announce them to you. >> Is that the part you were talking about? No, the whole chapter is what I'm talking about. Like we're just right now talking about the scripture of that person, right? And here God is saying that this is something new to come basically. So ignore this old graven images that I'm not going to give them glory. Here is something new that is being announced. Let's continue reading. Yeah. >> The whole chapter like I said is about is about the >> Yes. >> Yeah. >> It's about the servant which is the messenger. Yes. >> Okay. >> Let's read verse to the sing to the Lord a new song. Um his praise from the ends of the earth. Uh you who go down to the sea and all that is in it. You islands and all who live in them. Let the wilderness and its towns raise their voices. >> Let the settlements where this is your part, huh? >> Kadarju. >> Yeah. >> Salah sing for joy. Yeah. >> So there's two things there. Silah is specifically a mountain in Saudi Arabia, Medina. Anyone can Google it by the way. Mount Silah in Medina. Just Google it. People can Google images. Kedar is by agreement with all scholars. But because scholars is the Arabs because we have as I said in Genesis where it mentions specifically the children of Ishmael and it says that he is from the lineage of Ishmael which is the Arabs. So specifically here who is going to rejoice with all of this promises and that man is going to come for the covenant and all of this. Who is going to rejoice? So the Arabs here and its towns >> the Arabs and the children of Tar specifically Medina Saudi Arabia what they going to do they're going to rejoice with a man that is going to come with a new law and a covenant and he's going to go and the the the glory that has been given to the graven images which where when did idol worshiper uh end it only ended with prophet Muhammad peace be upon him idol worshiing started in the deserts of Arabia before prophet Muhammad after Abraham and after Ishmael and pro and it ended with the prophet Muhammad he's the one who ended this glory that the God is talking about here that has been given to graven images. Let's continue reading. We're not done. Let's continue. >> And uh let glory proclaim >> uh let them shout uh let the people sell for joy. Let them shout from the mountain tops. >> Uh let them give >> like they're doing today. >> Let them give glory to the Lord and proclaim his praise in the islands. >> The Lord will will march out like a champion, like a warrior. He will he will stir up his zeal >> with a shout. He will raise raise a battlecry >> and will triumph over his enemies. >> Ah so there is here >> triumphing a man of war triumphing over enemies. Talking about fighting we're talking about fighting enemies. We're talking about triumphing. Let's continue reading. >> Where does it say a man of war? >> Read when you know just like a mighty man >> a man of war. He will >> No, no, no. This is this is what I was talking about earlier. It says, "The Lord will march out like a champion, like a warrior. He will stir up his zeal." That's not a person. It's talking about God himself. >> Again, this is you misunderstanding biblical language. >> It's not me. >> Let's give I'll tell you I'll teach you. >> Okay. >> I'll teach you why you are. I'll teach you why you are. >> You are Christians for 2,000 years. Jews for however long were just wrong on this. And you No, they don't agree. They don't agree with you. Nobody says nobody comes and says that God himself is going to is going to come on earth and going to start walking and doing that. So wait, can you just allow me? I said to you, I'll teach I'll I told you I'll teach you. >> Okay. >> Give me a second. >> No, we're doing good. We're doing good. Yeah. >> Yeah. Give me a second to do it. >> Does the Bible say the Lord will come down from Mount uh Pon? The Bible in in Deuteronomy 33 I believe or or 32 one of the one of the two specifically says about Moses the Lord will come down from Mount Par. So it talks about Yahweh will come down from Mount Par. It uses the same terminology about Moses. So the Lord is a representation of the Lord and that can be a prophet and that can be a messenger. Not only that can be an angel who is wrestling Jacob in the Old Testament is the Lord wrestling Jacob. The Lord who who did God say to I'm going to make you God to Pharaoh. All these you're not understanding biblical terminology. And that's the problem. We understand biblical terminology and Hebrew terminology which is the sister language of Arabic. And we look at what the the rabbis say. This is their own language. This is biblical language to say that someone is a representative of the of the Lord to call him the Lord. I've already given you instances here like I mentioned to you about Moses mountain power like Moses mentioned to about Pharaoh all of these like the angel was coming and wrestling with Jacob all of them say the Lord >> all of them say God but it's a representative of the Lord >> but it literally uses God's name Yahweh. So in >> I told you it does the same thing in Mount Pan. >> Capital capital L O R D that does literally >> Yes. Yes. Yes. Cap my friend capital and small it's not there in the Hebrew is look capital small in the translation you're reading it >> there is no my friend my friend Hebrew like Arabic my friend Hebrew like Arabic. No no no the reason they put it like that is what I was telling you before which is Christians like yourself lay Christians they start thinking oh this is God this is not God. When they like they put a small G. When they don't like they put a big G. But if you go to the text, it doesn't matter because there is no small and and capital letters in the text. For example, if you go to uh Psalms 82:6, I'll give you another example. It literally says Elohim, which is the name the the reference to God, the word specifically God himself. >> God, >> it says Elohim in 82. >> Yeah. So it says God. The same the same Elohim is mentioned in Genesis 1:1. >> Genesis 1:1 talks about God creating the heavens and the earth. says, "It talks about God. In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth in Hebrew. We're very familiar with Hebrew. Like it's a sister language with Arabic. We don't have an issue with that. So if you go to the translation in 826, it puts a small G. Why do you put a small G? There's no small a big in Hebrew. They use it when they like, but in in Genesis 1, they put a big G." So this big and small game played in the translations, I couldn't care less about it. In the text, when it talks about Mount Paron, when it talks about making Moses God, when it talks about the judges of the Jews, all of those representatives, they're all called directly God. The same word that is used for God himself >> is used for them. And like I told you, this is biblical language. So I know you thought you had a point there. >> No, but it's not a point. >> I'd have to check on that. >> Check check. I gave you the references already. You can you can check on that. No, because but here here here's what I do know is L O R D that's Yahweh the name you guys don't use that name but that is that's the holy name of God that Jews won't even pronounce. So when you look at it in the for example in Septuagent it's just a tetra grammaton yhw wh because they don't even want to say the name. So when you but that that name we don't even actually know what it actually sounds like but it's been translated as Yahweh. But when they translate to English to show that's the name being used in Hebrew, they'll put capital L r to let you know. And then the whole reason you can do this and say, "Oh, look, they're playing games." is because you can go back to the Hebrew. So we we haven't lost anything. This is why a pastor or a priest, >> but they're still playing games. So thank you for agreeing to learn Hebrew. They have to learn Hebrew and Greek. >> No. >> So, nobody No, nobody is trying to mislead anybody. It's just translations, bro. We all know. >> Okay, let me bring you Okay, let me bring you back again and and correct you again. Teach you again on this point. >> Number one. Number one, I'll correct. Of course, I'm correcting you because you're saying things which are wrong. That's what correcting is. So, I'm correcting you. Number one is saying, "Lord, I told you 100 times that's English. That's not what the what the text is saying. Who cares? It's L, a small L or or or a big L." You said, "Oh, it's because it's the name, the textual grammat, right?" Yahweh, Yahweh, whichever way you say, we don't know how to say it because it doesn't have vowels anyways. Nobody knows how to pronounce the word. But >> you're saying, "Oh, it's because it's this word >> is God." So, if this word is used, then it must be God. That's the argument you're essentially making. Yahweh >> and I'm correcting your name. >> Yeah. Yeah. I'm talking about Yah. Yeah. I'm talking about Yahweh. Allow me to finish. >> So, you're saying if Yahweh is used, then it must be God. And that's why I just was correcting you on >> You are incorrect. what you're saying is not correct. Why are you not not correct? But you made another point like you were just making another point which is very problematic. What else did you say just right after that? >> You said something else. >> I don't even know what I said, bro. But >> I I just I just know [Laughter] >> you like you just bro just in respect in respect to this verse. I would have to look up the other one you you talked about, right? >> I'm just saying in respect to that. >> All right. >> Okay. Okay. Any anyways. Anyways, I forgot you were making another big blunder which I was I was about to correct you on as well. But >> what was it? >> Anyways, let me correct you. >> I'm I'm not remembering that the point. I remember the point you one point you made which is about like I said the textual grammat. But you knew that you made another point while you while you you spoke. Other than that, you just >> I was just I was just talking about how um the the only reason that So, the reason you're comparing what I'm reading to the Hebrew is because we have that. So, you can go back to the Hebrew and say, >> "Oh, yeah. Thank you." Thank you. Thank you. So, that's what I'm trying to tell you. The whole reason you can do that is because two blunders there. So, two Yeah. So, two blunders there. Blunder number one is thank you for admitting. So, I love this conversation because you admitted so many things which are very beneficial. First thing you admitted disciples didn't know that Jesus was God. Second thing you're admitting now is yes. Yes, these are incorrect translations, >> but you can go back to the original. Well, my friend, 99% of people don't go back to the original. Hence why they change these things because people like yourself didn't go back to the original. You were reading from the version you were reading. Overwhelming majority of people trust in their scholars quote unquote, right? this argument from authority and they say okay the people who got gave us this book must be reliable or righteous people so I'm going to read what this book says really on on average really how many people go back and read the original text and compare that's less than 1% probably of the people not not just uh not just Muslim Christians that's what I about to say that's that's what I was about to say not just Christians but overall majority but the difference is Muslims are not doing this they're not changing the original text I'm putting different words there but you agree Be be careful with that, bro. >> Be careful with that. >> I'm not going to be careful because what I'm saying is correct. >> There's different Qurans also with different words. You know this. You know this this >> No, there's no such thing. There's no Okay. Are you serious, bro? >> Are you serious? Milo Milo, let's stick on one topic and I know like I said, like I already said, you're demonstrating again. You want to jump from the Bible. >> You're lying, bro. That's a lie. No, you just lied, bro. You just said that Arabic Qurans don't have different words. I can prove that in two seconds right now. >> What did I say? What are we talking about? Arabic Qurans don't have different words. I'm talking about translations. Are you out of your mind or what? >> Yes. There's one. Muslims don't do that. There's no Quran. Bro, >> listen. Listen. Stop interrupting and and really I'm sorry. You're really being >> You're really being arrogant right now because I already told you I was talking about the translation. >> Arrogant. I just said >> we're both No, you're being ignorant >> right now. Right now. Right now. I already told you we talking we don't want to sh keep shouting and interrupting. Let me finish without interrupting. >> We are talking about translations. You have in your hand is a translation of the original text. I'm talking about the Quran translations of the Quran in the English language. You can go back to them. You're not going to find them changing Gentiles to coast lands to you're not going to find this nonsense because they don't change things in line of what gives them problems in their theology. Well, who do that are the Christian translators? So, stop going to the Arabic Quran, which has nothing to do with what we're talking about. Oh, you have the Arabic. You don't even know what you're talking about. You have no clue about the You have no clue about the I'm not going to spend another 20 minutes. No, I'm not going to spend another 20 minutes. Wait, let me finish. I'm not going to spend another 20 minutes educating you because it's getting it's getting tiring at this point educating us every single point. Let's go back to the main point I was mentioning here. Thank you for admitting like I said that these translations are not accurate. So the people reading, I give them the basic advice. Don't trust your your your Bible translation. Go back and compare with the earliest text that you have. It's not original, but the earliest text that you have, just go back and you'll find out how many games are being played in the book that you're reading. Now when I said I'm going to educate you on the second point now, you said because the word Yahweh is used the name, therefore it has to be God himself. I already gave you an example refuting you in Deuteronomy and you you said 32 it's 33 like I said it's not 32. So if you go back to Deuteronomy, if you go back to Deuteronomy 33:2 talks about Moses coming from Mount Si Sinai or uh from Mount Mount Si and it mentions Yahweh >> said >> the word Yahweh word for word. >> Yeah, I just want to look at >> 33:2 >> 33 verse two. So again, I'm showing you how you're not familiar with the biblical language, how you're not familiar with the Hebrew language, and how you disagree. Even though I give you references already refuting you, but you come back again to disagree for no reason. I've already gi you this reference in Deuteronomy 33:2, go to the Hebrew, it will tell you explicitly Yahweh. And he said, Yahweh from Sinai came down and sear them. And from like >> read read like it's the exact same thing. The Lord came from Sinai and dawned over from Sier. He shone further from Mount Piran. He came with marriage of holy ones from the south from his mountains tops. Oh yeah. No, no, >> there you go. >> You sure? >> I know this talk about it, but yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> No, no, now we can talk about we can't talk about you already. I already proved my point. >> The word Yahweh is used for the representative of the Lord in this case, which is Moses, a prophet of God. Just because the word in Isaiah 42 says Yahweh doesn't mean that it's God himself. It mean it can easily mean a representative of God. How do we know it's a representative of God? We already see the whole chapter talking about that representative of God that God is sending. The whole chapter is talking about the person is going to come and what he's going to do and what he's not going to do. So obviously within that context is referring to that person that the chapter is talking about. Now let's continue reading the chapter before you told me no no no it's the Lord. Let's finish read a chapter, please, because I need to take that expression. Probably the person is gonna go at this point for how long we've been talking. >> This call should just be me and you. We got to do this again. All right. >> No, no, please just finish the chapter. Once I finish the chapter, look, once I finish my chapter, my argument is done because this was the whole argument. >> All right, let me read I'm going to read the the few next few verses from my end >> and then you can follow me. All right, let me read now 14 quickly. I've held my peace for a long time. restrain myself like a woman in labor. I will cry cry out. Basically, God is saying, "I withheld, but now all this idol worshiping and sharing of glory. I withheld, but now I'm going to change that basically. And then I will lay waste on mountains and the hills and all the vegetation dry up. I will make the rivers and coastland etc. All of the stuff things that God is going to do. I'll bring the bell away. I I will lead them from darkness into light and will straighten their crooked path, etc." Then it says they shall be turned back. They shall be greatly ashamed. They shall who who those who trust in graven images. Those who say to grave images, you are our gods. So we have a prophet coming with a new law. And God here is saying is a is going to humiliate man of is going to stir up these people be put to shame. These idol worshippers who say to idols you are our gods. The Arabs, children of Kedar and Saudi, Arabia, Medina specifically. The ones who say you are our gods the only in human history which was at the time of the prophet Muhammad where this prophecy has been fulfilled. There isn't any time and it cannot be fulfilled anyways today. Even if someone else wants to fulfill it today they can't because there's no idol worshiper any anymore. There's no idol worshippers anymore. There's nobody worshiping grave images and idols anymore like they were at the time of prophet Muhammad. So now it says in 18 you deaf here. Look he's talking to the Christians. You deaf here you blind here. Look, look, see my servant, my messenger whom I sent the servant of Yahweh. So here the chapter whole of chapters Isaiah 42 it is irrefutable because it gives a precise clear description >> of prophet Muhammad peace be upon him. Not only what he is going to do but it gives his location and gives his people and what his people are going to do. rejoicing from the mountains, singing the praise of God, bringing a new law to the coastlands, the Arabs, specifically a messenger of God, defeating graven images and war, all of these things. It's a textbook description of the life of Prophet Muhammad. And that was my argument which you then you said if you can present me that then I'll have no choice and I I'll accept that Prophet Muhammad is a Muslim or God. Now the million-dollar question is which is the end of this discussion about this shahada today. Huh? Uhhuh. >> Exactly. That is the million-dollar question that we have for you. Are you ready for your shahada? >> Yeah, that is funny. Been there, done that, man. You know what? Many, many years ago, I uh got married to a Muslim lady from Saudi Arabia. Almost became Muslim. Didn't have >> Yeah, but that's different because people do that for love and and and they do it vice versa for love, not really for researching and realizing something is true, but they do it for for desire, for love, for >> No, bro. I really did. I really did. I I went on a journey for a few years, you know. I I went to the mosque, asked a lot of questions. I took part in everything. You know, my wife, like we're still married to this day. She wore hijab, everything like that, right? And I, you know, I was very curious. So, I had a lot of questions. I've been >> She's still married to you right now. You're saying, >> "Yeah, she's Christian now, right?" >> Oh, well, I don't believe your story. I'm sorry to say. Well, it's a nice story. It's a nice story but I mean anyone can make >> don't believe what part >> this story about oh she was I look all basically the two points you mentioned one point is >> why would I lie about that you can easily look me up online on Facebook and see my family I lie about that many >> I'll tell you why you would lie about that because we already have many lying Christians that somehow thinking that saying oh I used to be a Muslim and we expose them 247 I wasn't Muslim I wasn't Muslim I never said that no but you're saying she which is the same thing. >> She was >> She was I literally bring her on here which next time I call in I will literally put her on here. >> It's It's possible. But how can we verify your story? >> How can anyone verify that she was >> You don't have to I'm going I'm going to call in again. >> So we cannot verify the story. Whatever. >> Perfect. >> You can't. So Okay. So we'll throw that. >> As long as we agree that we cannot verify the story. It's just a story. Okay. >> Sure. I was I was just telling you a little bit about myself of like my journey of why I, you know, was curious. >> I get it. I get it. I get it. I get it. I get it. >> The questions I obviously have about Islam. So like >> So now, so now, so now, okay. So now, so now, so now she she followed you into Christianity and now you realize Prophet Muhammad's a prophet because your argument was if the description I gave you is in the scripture and it is in the scripture and I present it to you, then now it's either you're going to be a sincere person in the eyes of God. God God hears you. >> God knows what you said. You can look trick play games with me, trick the people watching, but God sees you. >> Anyone who believes in God, you know, God sees you. God knows what you said >> and it's not only that it's on record and video which doesn't really matter but God knows what you said. You admitted that if this description was there >> that you are you agree that you'll have to accept that prophet Muhammad and messenger. >> If you then say no I used >> am I'm allowed to ask questions now. Am I allowed to because you just read and I just accepted what you were saying? >> No no no but asking questions is after >> right? >> Yeah. No, no. After asking questions is after first seeing what happened this whole discussion and our discussion we've been having. Did we have it for nothing? Like did we have a whole discussion where I'm joining? So what was the point then? What was the point of if you if we made an agreement >> we made an agreement that if this description is there >> you will accept prophet as a messenger of God. Now you're telling me I'm not going to accept until you answer my question. How is that like what's the point then of the >> because I because I dis because I disagree. I think that passage for you to say it's Prophet Muhammad is the biggest stretcher I've ever heard in my life. Right. There's no way that could be Prophet Muhammad. >> Sure. Well, I mean, everyone sees now how this discussion went. It's it's time to move on to the next person. If you say this is a big stretch, I mean people have watched already for 40 minutes and they know very well. They can clearly see that this person has no ounce of sincerity. He himself agreed that prophet that this description is in line with the description I gave him. And before I brought him on, he said that if you present the description to me, description to me, I'm going to accept that prophet Muhammad. We're just showing people that look not many people are not sincere because people always ask us okay if Islam is so clear and evident why people don't accept here an example clearcut example some people have arrogance in their heart some people have desires some people have other reasons they won't accept the truth even if it's clear as the sun in their