Agnostic Man Grills Muslim With Difficult Questions! Muhammed Ali

of course um so if God is all knowing why do you need to pray five times a day and why do you need to pray in the direction of meca okay so I don't see the correlation between the two look if we pray five times a day or we pray towards the direction of meca how does that correlate with the attributes of God I'm missing the link between the two question between the question basically and the points uh yeah so I guess I'm saying if God's all knowing why why did he to pray in the direction of Mecca he he doesn't you know he knows what you're thinking or doing or saying no matter what direction you're yeah so so so we pray uh because God commands us to pray as an act of worship first meaning it's a form of submission it's not relation to that the knowledge of God number one number two it is because it's good for us so it does not benefit God that we pray Allah says in the Quran Allah is free from you doesn't need you he's independent of everything anyway want you to pray five times a day it seems like quite a lot like it seems you know it seems like kind of a not that great a God that would ask someone but why do we pray is the question that's what I was trying to tell you I was trying to tell you prayer is for us so if prayer is beneficial for us then we will do it five times a day you're thinking of it as it is a benefit for God which is not benefiting God is benefiting us yeah prayer of course first is obedience of God which gives us us we have a soul we don't just have the bodies right I have a body I have a body can feed the body food but the soul also requires nourishment and that's why a lot of people have a lot of money but they are the most miserable people on Earth richest people commit suicide all the time because materialistic things do not give you fulfillment internally we say that prayer is a connection between us and God so first it gives us this fulfillment number one number two it reminds us of God so when we're living Our Lives we get reminders we do not commit evil Deeds because this life is a test so it helps us stay connected to the Creator and stay connected to Purity and Far Away From Evil deeds and sins and actions right so all and there's many many of course other things as well gives us relief from the the all of the tiredness that we have in life we just focusing between us and God the conversation that you have with the most beloved to you which is the creat right so there's many things that we do for ourselves so these prayers we don't look at them as a burden look at them as yes and so if one obedience to God course if you pray six times a day does that bring you closer to God than praying five times a day would you say or but this but this is the thing is is where do what is prayer is what I was telling you a connection I pray so you tell me sure so prayer is a connection between you and God and if God is the one who commands you how to pray then prayer has to be done in the way that he likes like if you buy a gift for your friend you buy a gift that he likes or with the gift that you like yeah I guess a gift that he yes if we're going to pray to the Creator we have to play to the Creator the way that he likes He commands us because it's a form of submission not the way that we determine we start innovating okay one guy says I'm going to you know do this at this the prayer you know we say okay then everyone will do his own thing and we refer to it as a prayer but the one who determines how he would like you pray to him is the one who asks you to pray to him to begin with which is the creator interesting um and in t of other questions so um obviously see Islam is very interesting religion I I understand the difference between that and Christianity is believe Jesus uh isn't the Son of God but a prophet in the same way as Muhammad um but surely uh the Quran was written a long time after the Bible time after sort of Jesus is around so why should I believe the Quran more than I believe the Bible yeah will we say it's not what is written first therefore is true like I can bring the oldest book in human history now it can qutain mistakes if it has 1 plus 1 equals 3 doesn't mean it's true right so truth is not determined by how ancient the book is right and that's why the Christians believe in the Torah that came before them right and you'll have you'll have Hindus yeah and you'll have Hindus claiming there before that and everyone will claim her before that and you look at Noah some people say we noahides we follow Noah and that was before that it's not about who is before who it's about the beliefs that you have can you determine can you give us evidences that what you believe is truly from God or not so we say we look at every scripture yeah uh objectively and we study it and we look at the evidence study the Book of Mormon for example yeah why not really yeah so when you look at Joseph Smith you find Joseph Smith committing many false predictions of the future prophecies and the same book that he believes in which is the Bible says that if anyone claims something will happen in the future and it doesn't happen and he claims it in the name of God then he's a false prophet so he yeah so he falsifies his own beliefs right he give you many more he said that America will end in this time it will be defeated in this time and many many false prophecies that he made right so yes of course I investigate what the Book of Mormon says as I do with the Bita as I do with the T the tell as they do with any other scripture with the Bible right all the New Testament so we cannot just be in a bubble and say oh this is the truth like I would reject I have a reason for each religion if I say I don't accept this religion I'll give you com you know about all the Hindu gods like ganes and all that kind of thing yeah yeah you have you have the story of Ganesh how Ganesh actually actually became God which is that these things are not reasonable you have the father of of this Goda saying to God the son protect your mother stay on the door do this protect her then he doesn't he comes back he's not there so he chops his of his own son he says what did I do he finds an elephant he chops his head he puts it on his son this is essentially in a very summarized way the story right so okay and therefore you got a god like or you got monkey armies fighting with with each other or you got like the Earth is on a you know all crazy but then Prophet Muhammad riding a horse to Heaven oh that's totally that that is funny where did you bring that belief from we don't believe that very good question you know a white man went to a Christian you know it's something that I've heard of I don't know anything social say media people but that's not the case we don't believe in that we believe the prophet went up he did not go up on a horse we believe believe a specific creation of God called the Bak is not a horse it's not a donkey it's not one of the Creations that we know it is so can God create a vehicle in which the prophet can use to ascend up is that a logical possibility uh well if there is a okay okay so so there is no fly horse of these fairy tales of stories of little daughters you know has like a a horse with a horn with two Wings we don't believe it in fact there's a funny thing there's a story of the Prophet wife and then playing with a do with dolls or something that she had a doll and then he said uh what is this she said I heard that Solomon at the side of Solomon there was horses with wings that used to fly so the prophet laughed laughed at the idea so that idea that you're talking about the prophet laughed at you know this not the belief that we hold as Muslim yes I'm telling you one thing that I like about Islam that I don't like about Christianity is that the Bible has kind of been translated and translated and we don't really know what it means but then the Quran people learn it off by heart and so it never changes but then someone pointed out well actually we got two kinds of Islam Shia and um and so which one are you and why why if if if everyone knows the Quran you know word for word there be two different okay okay so first I'm I'm a Muslim I don't identify myself as this as that I I'll tell you why I identify myself as a Muslim because the Quran that we're all supposed to follow says to call yourself a Muslim the prophet he said name yourself Muslims as Allah named you in the Quran and Allah said I named you Muslim so if Allah names me Muslim means follower right submitter the one who submits to God so so the thing is this if my parents Nam me Muhammad and I call myself Muhammad if God the almighty names me something I'm not going to go with people's names over it right I'm going to go with the God almighty's name over anyone else's naming me that's the first thing will say second thing about the idea of sun it's not like people imagine 5050 this no Shia are like 10% of Muslims are less okay that's number one number two uh where's the difference come from coming from sh and sunis both believe in the same Quran both believe in the same Prophet both believe in the same God I'm surprised you look but the difference comes from a historical event after the death of the Prophet it's a political success right yeah yeah so it's a political thing that happened after the death of the Prophet who should have been the successor should have been Abu Bak should have been or should have been Ali and then later on the people who aligned themselves with Al said that we call ourselves Ali means the group of Ali sh means group group of Ali and then there was a new religion that was brought later on they started bringing beliefs oh Ali is actually like God right sorry so I'm I'm telling you history now if you if you if you can find me for example at the time of the Prophet anyone who said that Ali knew the Unseen or that Ali is going to come back to life none of these things will be there if you look at his Trac historically you'll find out that it happened later on where these beliefs started to develop so right now I'm speaking objectively that this is the case of course a would say no no that's not the case but you can ask he can you produce for me a carbonated manuscript of beliefs where evidences that traces back that these people believe the things that you're saying he's not going to be able to do that and therefore that's objective history now what does Sunni mean Sunni it comes from the word which is tradition to follow the tradition of the Prophet if you go to a and say to him should we follow the tradition of the Prophet you know what he's going to say he's going to say yes so by extension in that way just means to follow the tradition of the Prophet now in the end call yourself potato call yourself Sunni call yourself sh the Quran is the criteria because we all believe in it and the Quran teaches that uh for example the companions of the Prophet we should follow them you'll have cursing them we have the Quran for example saying that we should call upon Allah alone you should worship Allah alone and call upon him alone you find calling upon Ali and other dead people right so when you use the criteria which is the Quran Allah says if you disagree over anything return it to the Quran if we use the Quran and we find the people doing anything whether you call yourself Sunni sh potato whatever you want to call yourself if you're not doing what the Quran is saying and what the prophet taught then you are wrong in that thing right the name is not going to save you right just by calling yourself something that does not mean now you're upon the correct belief and do you think some Christians will go to heaven or only only Muslims well it depends what you mean by Christian because throughout history we say for example you look at both yeah We Believe for example if you're living out the time living out the time with Jesus and follow Jesus then that's not what a Muslim is sorry that's not what a Christian is that's a Muslim yeah we believe Jesus is Muslim Prophet meaning he submitted to the will of the Creator therefore whoever followed him was also a Muslim so the people who followed Jesus at his life before Allah s Prophet Muhammad and followed the teachings of Jesus and died upon that these people go to paradise you can call them Christians today many people will call them Christians now after Prophet Muhammad and I'm answering your question question now after Prophet Muhammad whoever hears The Message of Islam yeah now this is the the condition whoever hears The Message of Islam and reject The Message of Islam and dies upon rejecting it will go to Hell Fire who doesn't hear the message and he call himself Christian but he didn't hear the message of Islam he didn't hear the evidences for his truth has a different test on the day of judgment the criteria is if you hear the truth the evidence say present it to you and then you reject it and you die upon rejecting it then you're choosing Hellfire because you see the evidences and innately you know is the truth cuz it will make sense you will see the evidences for it but I don't speak Arabic and apparently if you do speak Arabic the Quran is the most beautiful thing and and it's so irrefutable that it it could not possibly be the truth and so I don't believe go Allah has has truly shown me the way because I was born into a white atheist family right can I surprise you and I've got you know I've got two law degrees I'm an intelligent person I think and I don't accept it because I don't I've not sort of you know okay can maybe I'm going to Hell Fire no no no can I surprise you now that surprise me I'll surprise you by telling you that over 80% of Muslims don't speak Arabic so really so yeah so when you you say I don't speak Arabic you are a reflection of the overwhelming majority of Muslims of course the biggest populations of Muslims Indonesia Malaysia Pakistan Etc these are the biggest population in the world you can Google it now as a stat the country the countries that speak cuz a lot of people think it's an Arab thing but they are unaware that's why I said I would surprise you that over 80% of us but you can still appreciate Beauty have you have you ever put a headphone and listen to the Quran uh I've listen uh I I officially have not okay I hear no problem so I will advise you do just bring a headphone put put it on your ears and listen to the Quran and you will say yourself that it has a spiritual effect on you and you don't need to speak Arabic to have that that's why everyone listens to the Quran like if you Google just Quran on YouTube see millions of views these are not necessarily people who speak the Arabic language these are people who understand and appreciate the effect that the Quran because you believe is God's words will have an effect on your soul either way but the thing is you're not commanded to believe to understand the Arabic language to be a Muslim for you to be a Muslim all you need to do is to understand the foundational beliefs and I can explain it to you in English you can read the translation you can me someone many you know lot reason if I turn up a MOS and said you know as a white man said I want to be a Muslim would I be accepted or you will find white men there that are Muslim yes I don't know if I how many people I can tell you that become Muslim today and yesterday who are from French background all of these backgrounds we don't Islam is not white or black or orange doesn't matter what your color is is the most diverse religion on the planet yeah I get that but well apart from white people probably but maybe you say no no no I I disagree okay let's talk about the UK if you want talk about the British people for example you look at the last senses that happen in the UK yeah the the Muslims they are from uh 4.6 to I believe 6 something right if I'm if I'm correct right so but there's the increase tens of thousands hundreds of thousands of people accepting Islam in the UK and Welles right from 4.9 to 6.4 now I remember from 4.9 to 6.4 I would argue that's from immigration rather than a growing no no no no PE research conducted a study to do with conversion rate and Islam is at the top it's not it's not about birth rate that's a common a common you know love law that you find in the media that's not the case well I'm not trying to do a low blow right no not you I'm not saying you I'm saying the people do that they spread this misation for that reason but reality is according to PR Research Institute as well as many other organizations that the more when you look at conversional acceptance right it is uh number one even the Daily Mail had the study that majority of people who accept Islam three of of every four is women because a lot of women they hear bad women are oppressed all of this nonsense and then they do research I don't really personally like the whole like hijab thing when but this is the thing Tech but this is the thing with all the respect to you as well I'm not trying to be to be disrespectful it's not about what I like and what you like it's about what the Creator commands Allah knows the the nature of the man and knows what we are attracted to physically in a woman and knows what is the consequences of that attraction that happens in society I might not like something but I know the wisdom behind it within the society and how it reflects uh positively as a whole on a society right but the thing is you can become Muslim right now if you want it but if you believe in the teachings of Islam is the thing right we're not trying to recruit people here that's irrelevant people should accept because they want to right so I might have to ask a few quick C questions so what what's what are you doing here then what's your purpose our purpose is to deliver the message so Allah commands in the Quran that everyone has a right to know the truth you have a right to know the truth and then to make a decision of whether you want to accept the truth or not Allah says in Chapter 2 ver 256 there's no compulsion acceptance of religion all right next question if if people have been created because obviously Muslims are generally buried in the direction of Mecca believe no not not any direction but within 3 days of of death no generally the Corpus is going to rot of course you have to bury as soon as possible and so people have inated could they get to heaven do you think or not well well you been incriminated or not is not a reason whether you'll be in Hell Fire or Heaven it's just but the action no no the ACT this is I'll tell you an interesting story about the thing is first we say Allah is able to do everything right and we say that this is a sin to increate the people but that doesn't mean that the person will end up fire because of it because the person who inates him is not him right Allah is able to bring you whether you crated thrown in the sea yeah thean whatever is happening to you the one who created you the first time as Allah says in the Quran is able to bring you back okay okay all right next question uh so going a slightly different different if I'm taking up too much of your time go ahead it's okay problem why would God create po skins only for him to command to get rid of them well we do I don't have on no no that's fine that's fine there's many of the things that the god commands we do them as an act of worship as submission to him for instance the number of the prayers why are they five not six not seven not eight not 10 you can ask these questions but we do them out of submission now the question is can God just give you and this is interesting to think about now can God give you the force skin as a test that whether you will submit to his command not knowing the reason behind doing it or not he can can he create the first kin to fulfill a specific purpose and then command you to do to remove it yes the Quran say to remove it the the teachings of the Prophet no the teaching of the Prophet say yes you talking about circumcision right circumcision the prophet does but not only Islam it's abah actually says it's etal tradition I question is it in the Quran we don't just believe in the Quran we believe in the Quran and the teachings of the Prophet Allah says in the Quran the prophet expl explains the Quran so you only put some of his teachings in the Quran no there is no teachings of the prophets in the Quran at all Quran is God's words we don't mix God's words with any human it's unlike any religion teachings AR in there no it's called theith Hadith is the narration of the prophet and then we have a historical process of authenticating it if it's an ically attributed statement to the prophet then it is binding because the Quran he brought it and Allah told you in the Quran he speaks Revelation not of his own and that follow the prophet and whatever he tells you to do do and whatever he tells you not to do do not do because the Quran if it has details of everything yeah it will be this massive and no one will read it but the Quran is a comp composed kind of text in which he expound to through the life of the prophet of application how do you actually apply in reality the prophet is the example of how to do it yeah interesting all right well that's very good I I'm out of questions and I think you clearly know your stuff so I'm very impressed okay I was having to beat you on a few points I thought you very good okay I appreciate it so yeah I live Muslim area yeah and there's always people doing uh stalls there and stuff like that but thing is I invite you to Islam if it makes sense to you if you believe in one Creator whether you worship and it makes sense that Prophet Muhammad is a messenger I invite you to Islam in the end it's your decision and choice whether you want to accept or not yeah well I'm not quite converted but I thought you had some very good answer to my questions so problem me REM me your name Muhammad of course nice talking to you no problem appreciate it thank you